Has anyone actually seen Hock? He's no bigger than when he left. Hock plus a big mean intimidating prop would go some way to remedying the situation.

Doesn't mean we can't get better.

The thing is can we really?

You look at guys like Pauleta, O'Meley, Peacock etc and you look at their pay packets and reps for being hard nuts but yet Coley has matched all of them but got a lot less credit for it.

Look at Mason would you take him and his wages over Coley.

No.

Don't get me wrong I rate Coley he's been one of our two best props this season, imo, but he's been thinking of retiring for a couple of years and I'd rather back our younger lads and getting a real intimidating prop in would improve our pack, imo.

Andy Coley was talked out of retiring after last years success. He will almost certainly retire this season.

He's been an excellent signing for Wigan, but this season he hasn't been our best prop. Paul Prescott, Lee Mossop and Jeff Lima have all done better than him. They all have a better metres per carry ratio than Coley. That is no quirp at Coley either, just the rest have all performed very, very well for us.

And yet you want Dowes?

He honestly is the worst player in the Hull team, and that's going some way the way we've played this season. His stats may look good but he plays big minutes, which is OK if your rotation gets hit, but normally he just jogs into a tackle and goes straight down, then takes ages to play the ball!

If you want Dowes we'd swap him for any one of your players! (Apart from Tomkins

)

Hes gone a lot bigger

You don't want Ray Cashmere either.

Utter rubbish and not at all intimidating, Wigan would be better off having Feka back.

You'll have to be quick if you want Feka, lots of interest, and low mileage.

Coley for me has easily been our stand out performer up front. Everything he does is hurtful, his defence is as harmful to the opposition as his attack. Really underated for me as a player. Took on the best club pack in the world on his own up front and was fantastic against St George. Still got a year in him for mine, but it sounds like he has made the decision to hang up his boots.

We'll take him off your hands then.

Bulls OoC

Kearney - hands off
L'estrange
Ah Van
Ainscough
Raynor
Royston
Walker
Halley
Herbert
Finnigan
Bateman - hands off
McAvoy

all poor

L,estrange in a better team would be a good player IMO

I agree. The few times I've seen Bradford play he's been a stand out player.

Thanks. That's now 8 out of the 14 teams done. Just Castleford, Catalans, Crusaders, Hull KR, Leeds and Wakefield not done.

theres not many players id have out of that list,
stick with the kids we have,

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Leeds Rhinos[/u

1. Brent Webb
4. Keith Senior
8. Kylie Leuluai
9. Danny Buderus (Quota)
10. Jamie Peacock
14. Ali Lauitiiti
16. Ryan Bailey
17. Ian Kirke
18. Luke Burgess
31. Callum Casey

[uWarrington[/u
Gareth Carvell - NRL

[uStains[/u
Leon Pryce - NRL
James Graham - NRL
Tony Puletua - Warrington

[uSalford[/u
Stefan Ratchford - Warrington


[uHarlequins[/u
Luke Ambler - Leeds Loan return

[uWigan[/u
Ryan Hoffman - NRL
Pat Richards - NRL

[uLeeds Rhinos[/u

Brent Webb - Widnes
Keith Senior - Retire
Ali Lauitiiti - Retire
Luke Burgess - NRL

IMO of course

I dont think Carvell will go to the NRL.. I dont think he is good enough. He will stay at Wire for another season IMO.

If Coley retires and Hoffman leaves i'd be tempted to put in a cheeky bid for Peacock for a couple of years. He's obviously getting a little long in the tooth and we'd have to see how he comes back from his injury but as an outside chance i'd give it a whirl.

He'll more then likely sign up for Leeds for another couple of years before retiring but stranger things have happened.

Already signed new one year deal with Leeds, just not confirmed as of yet

No he's not.

Wakefield-

Everyone.

Fair enough.

I couldn't see any other outcome to be honest.

Thanks

With the help of BackrowSaint the list now has 12 of the 14 Super League teams. Just missing Crusaders and Les Catalans now.