It's a good job there's no relegation this year. Marginally better than Salford, Celtic would have had dispensation.

We're THAT bad!

Never mind, let's wait till September time eh Brian?

Exactly right. They reminded me of the old London Broncos teams of the past who used the same tactics.

Having said that we just did'nt take our chances and once again ended up chasing the game.

But Hudds chose a gameplan to play and win against Wigan and the conditions, sounds like the same tactics from Wigan that we use every week. Hudds do not use those tactics every week.

Were in danger of becoming a second tier club with a coach and fans who belive that it is acceptable to lose at home to Cas, Wakey and Hudds because if we finish in the top 8 we get a chance to be champions.

Isn't it great - we might finish 8th - win a couple of games and come 3rd in the play offs - and then we can accept another season of mediocrity safe in the knowledge that we are "improving".

This stuns me!

People are happy to accept mediocrity and worse!

On paper we are a far better team than we perform, on paper like Wire and the Bulls we are a better team than we perfrom. Wire have done something about it, just wonder when us and the Bulls will, the longer we hold for action the lower our expactations can be for 09 and beyond.

I will eat my own dung if Noble is given a contract extension at the end of the year. In fact, and I keep saying it.....I think he will walk and within the next 6 league games should we not win the majority.

Stains (H)
Catalans (A)
Celtic (H)
Wakey (A)
Stains (Murrayfield)
Hull KR (H)

But we had enough chances to win this game comfortably and did'nt take them. Poor last tackle options and the usual mistakes....dropped ball, Knock on.
If we had, it would not have mattered what tactics hudds used.

If my Auntie had a cock and balls she would be my unkle. Hudds adapted a game plan to get the win by the sounds of it. We adopted the same game plan and made the same errors we have made for the last 2 years. That is the issue.

Same story different week, no signs of these issues being cured.

I think we already are a second tier club, it's just taking a long time to sink in with us fans. Once we accept this and move on things will get a lot better for us 'cos we won't have such high expectations of our team and thus being disappointed every other week or so won't come as much of a surprise.

I think i've reached that point already.

Just looked back at your posts. Can't see it myself.

When we scored in the second half I was convinced we would kick on and win this game but as the clock ticked down you could just sense Hudds scoring late on to snatch it at the death...........no suprise there then



I don't think we played that badly just too many errors but i'm so used to that now that it now means I'm only p1ssed off Friday night not all weeked like I was in the past .

I thought so too. The two tries at the end came as no surprise to me at all.

The scoreline flatters Hudds somewhat but make no mistake, the best team (and the best coach) won on the night.

I agree 100% with what Noble says there (must be a first

). Our kicking game was rubbish tonight, but on the whole I didn't think it was all that bad. It was a good arm-wrestle. Fielden's reaction after their first try would suggest it wasn't grounded, it looked very dubious on the replay. I'm still amazed that their 2nd try was given, looked a blatant knock on to me

"Whilst I take responsibility for what we do" - Good lets hope IL see's it like that and sacks him.

"We need to be going a bit better." - master of understatements.

How on earth does that equate to things getting better? What is wrong with the fans of one of the best supported clubs having high expectations?

Dave

The high expectations we all have are no longer being achieved by what is a very average side.

If we lower our expectation then we won't be disappointed after results like last nights.

Simple, no?

The thread title nicely sums up most of the posts I have read on this thread so far.

Out of interest, what were the excuses last season when Huddersfield put 30+ points on you?

I've seen them 3 times now. They use exactly those tactics each week.

3 times in how many years?

Clearly you werent watching agaisnt Quins, or Cas, or Bradford, or Castleford, or Catalans, or Hull, or Saints

Try watching how Wigan play sometime, you might be surprised at the amount of laying on, offsides, obstructions etc that go on.

Clearly this season shag. Against Hull & Castleford, they applied the exact same tactics as last night. Ask Terry Matterson if he agrees with the way Hudds play.

ahhh winning tactics and coaches who bleat and whinge about losing and blame everything but their own shortcomings

check out the fairplay index.

what another bitter coach who couldnt get the better of nathan brown so has to resort to typical dummy spitting rather than focus on his own team's shortfalls?

Like I said, the thread title says it all about the vast majority of posters on this thread.

coming out everyweek bleeting on about how we needed to execute better. Erm, Brian, why don't you focus on execution more in training?