Feel as if it's a good move just wouldn't like Sam Tomkins to be compromised in terms of game time, but Deacon is great cover for the half backs and even a Hooker got injured Tommy can always move to 9 with Deacon coming into the half backs. I also think the youngsters will learn allot from Paul he reads the game so well and has a great kicking abilities.

Yes.

Yes but if you read the discussion I have been having with S.E.B you can see it isn't quite as simple as that as to what it means for the squad and any other recruitment.

Dave

You could hardly say we 'needed' Smith.

That's a different issue. The question was "what did we do without Deacon last year?" as if we only had two halfbacks available for 2009. My answer was that we actually had three halfbacks available, as we now will for 2010.

I think we did though! At least by having smith Sam was gradually brought into the team, as opposed to just being thrown in at the deep end at the beggining of the season.

Let's hope Deacon's move is more than just a verbal agreement for now. Apparently, Chris Walker (who was due to sign for the Bulls) ''is blocking'' Matt Orford's move to the Bradford as his agreement was pushed aside to make way for Orford. www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 47,00.html Disasterous if Bradford lose out on both Deacon and Orford, however it's probably Australian media spicing things up again.

Let's hope Deacon's move is more than just a verbal agreement for now. Apparently, Chris Walker (who was due to sign for the Bulls) ''is blocking'' Matt Orford's move to the Bradford as his agreement was pushed aside to make way for Orford. www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 47,00.html Disasterous if Bradford lose out on both Deacon and Orford, however it's probably Australian media spicing things up again.

Quote ="ABP'"Let's hope Deacon's move is more than just a verbal agreement for now. Apparently, Chris Walker (who was due to sign for the Bulls) ''is blocking'' Matt Orford's move to the Bradford as his agreement was pushed aside to make way for Orford. www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 47,00.html Disasterous if Bradford lose out on both Deacon and Orford, however it's probably Australian media spicing things up again.'" It probably is. But are we seeing the makings of another Harris-type balls-up?

Quote ="ABP'"Let's hope Deacon's move is more than just a verbal agreement for now. Apparently, Chris Walker (who was due to sign for the Bulls) ''is blocking'' Matt Orford's move to the Bradford as his agreement was pushed aside to make way for Orford. www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 47,00.html Disasterous if Bradford lose out on both Deacon and Orford, however it's probably Australian media spicing things up again.'" It probably is. But are we seeing the makings of another Harris-type balls-up?

Sam was not gradually brought into the team.

Sam went from playing one CC game against Whitehaven in 2008 to playing 22 SL games in 2009. That IS being thrown in at the deep end and suggesting Smith was used to gradually introduce Sam into the team, is simply not what happened.

Dave

What were they trying to do.

get a number of players to sign and then decide who they wanted before signing there part of the deal

If walker as signed could bradford be made to buy him out that contract ?

If it was any club but Bradford I wouldnt buy it, but Im sure i remember reading Walker was nailed on.

Is Jefferies still there?

Or would they be well and truely in a mess?

Only if both he and the club signed the contract. If he has a contract then any compensation paid to the player to buy him out counts on the cap and is spread over the remaining duration of his contract.

They could agree a different (reduced) pay-off than his full contract is worth as compensation and if they did it's that amount that would become the clubs cap liability.

Dave

Gone back Wakefield aint he ?

I had a feeling he had, so that leaves em with Sykes & Kearney if they use him at 6.

Dave,

What is the legality of a verbal contract offer and acceptance?

If it can be proved, it is still binding. The problem, as always, comes in the proof.

Quote ="ABP'"Let's hope Deacon's move is more than just a verbal agreement for now. Apparently, Chris Walker (who was due to sign for the Bulls) ''is blocking'' Matt Orford's move to the Bradford as his agreement was pushed aside to make way for Orford. www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 47,00.html Disasterous if Bradford lose out on both Deacon and Orford, however it's probably Australian media spicing things up again.'" im following walker on twitter and its definanetly not the media spicing things up, someone asked him what happens now and he said 'mate i dont know my legal team is onto it, so its a waiting game' bradford could be in the shít here.

Quote ="ABP'"Let's hope Deacon's move is more than just a verbal agreement for now. Apparently, Chris Walker (who was due to sign for the Bulls) ''is blocking'' Matt Orford's move to the Bradford as his agreement was pushed aside to make way for Orford. www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 47,00.html Disasterous if Bradford lose out on both Deacon and Orford, however it's probably Australian media spicing things up again.'" im following walker on twitter and its definanetly not the media spicing things up, someone asked him what happens now and he said 'mate i dont know my legal team is onto it, so its a waiting game' bradford could be in the shít here.

Not much tbh.

Not worth the paper it isn't written on

I personally hope that Bradford don't get Orford. It’s a joke of a signing to bring over a 31/32 year old good but not spectacular player on such a massive wedge and pin all your hopes on him.

Maybe it will be the kick up the booty the Bradford need to get rid of their p!$$ poor board.

Any club that has fallen as far as Bradford in less that 5years needs serious change in it’s heirarchy!! Where have the crowds gone? How have they let so many decent players leave in such a short space of time? Then there is the slow if none existant development of Odsal.

I don’t claim to be an expert on Bradford but as far as i can see they have very little competition for supportorters in their area. Bradford City and Leeds UTD are the two closest ‘big football clubs’ to them and neither are in great shape. They’ve had the fans turning up before so where have they gone and why hasn’t more been invested to attract them back? If a town like Wigan with so many top flight football clubs + Saints so close can achieve avg gates of 16k then why can’t a city like Bradford.

I’d be peeved if Wigan turned round this off season and signed 4-5 overseas players.

Shouldn't really say this, but I hope it turns into a right ding dong between him and Bradford, it should at least offer some entertainment during the off season.

And you don't come across as one either.

He isnt wrong though is he, its been a monumental fall from grace since nobby left!.

Hope you can get back as i quite liked bradford, plus was a bit more interesting as a big four as opposed to big 2 which we have now.

Please tell us which bit isn't true;

You've had excellent crowds in recent past.
You've very little comp from other sporting clubs in your city or area.
Your ground needs a major revamp
You've now sold or got rid of all of your former top stars!

I remember when Bradford used 2 produce world class youngsters as well as signing young gems like Hape, Robbie Paul & big Les! The signings you've made so far seem IMO 2 be panic buys or short term fixes!

You are actually the new wigan!

Surely, if he has received a contract from Bradford, which he as signed and returned in good faith, it can no longer be considered a "verbal contract" ???

I didn't see a signature from Trinity Mirror when I signed my contract, but it is presumed to be there, because they've sent it out for you to sign which finalises everything.

This sounds like an absolute shambles.

Amateurism of the highest order (if it is as reported)