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| Would be worth it but would half of the fans be willing to watch for the first couple of seasons if it doesnt seem to work ? Above that if it was a failure would the team trust two inexperienced halfbacks leading them around the park
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| Quote ="big boss man"Would be worth it but would half of the fans be willing to watch for the first couple of seasons if it doesnt seem to work ? Above that if it was a failure would the team trust two inexperienced halfbacks leading them around the park'"
they are following 2 experienced half backs at the moment without any success so why not
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| Quote ="big boss man"Would be worth it but would half of the fans be willing to watch for the first couple of seasons if it doesnt seem to work ? Above that if it was a failure would the team trust two inexperienced halfbacks leading them around the park'"
Those in the know believe Tomkins to be being tapped up by Rugby Union; personally I'm surprised he's not featured already this season but to lose him to the other code cos we've not got the lad playing at the level he deserves is ridiculous.
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| Quote ="big boss man"Would be worth it but would half of the fans be willing to watch for the first couple of seasons if it doesnt seem to work ? Above that if it was a failure would the team trust two inexperienced halfbacks leading them around the park'"
We could use the cap money we were going to spend on a stand off to buy an experienced player or 2 to help that
Maybe fans would get impatient but if they could see the bigger picture they wouldn't mind plus the fact there's no relegation to worry about
Didn't Mcguire and Burrow start in the halves for Leeds at a pretty young age
and they would have the potential to turn out just as good as if not better than them. Maybe even Edwards and Gregory esque
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| I dont see the forwards following them in the matches so far as we have no moves, but i understand what you mean i just think that if we would be better with them following 2 experienced halfbacks instead of 2 in experienced ones
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| tomkins should be playing now like all the promising youngsters
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| hmmmm i believe that would be sufficient and could work if we had 1 or 2 other experienced players with the 2 young guns at half back with tommy and riddell at 9 but what about Mcillorum
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| Quote ="big boss man"hmmmm i believe that would be sufficient and could work if we had 1 or 2 other experienced players with the 2 young guns at half back with tommy and riddell at 9 but what about Mcillorum'"
Loan?
If we could buy an experienced Prop then we should have the necessary experience in the likes of Roberts, Carmont, Richards, Fielden, Piggy, Tommy, Lockers and hopefully another signing.
Also with the likes of Hock, Tomkins, Hansen, Goulding being that year or 2 older we should be fine really
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| Yea, the idea is slowly growing on me, it could work with the experience that our team surrounding them ae getting. A few vital signings along with Myler and we could be on to a winner , in the future
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| with no relegation wigan should use this time to blood their quality youngsters without any pressure
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| Quote ="markyp"with no relegation wigan should use this time to blood their quality youngsters without any pressure'"
That's a load of BS though isn't it.
If the Wigan team now was full of youngsters from our academy in the exact same position, 0 from 3, they'd still get the same amount of grief IMO. Playing for Wigan, you'll always be under pressure because for some fans it's all about winning. I just wish Noble next season, that's if he's in charge, would replace some of the off contract Aussies with some of our youth. i.e Mossop for Bailey, Ainscough for Phelps etc. It wont happen though. We all know it.
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| Quote ="big boss man"Yea, the idea is slowly growing on me, it could work with the experience that our team surrounding them ae getting. A few vital signings along with Myler and we could be on to a winner , in the future'"
Agreed
Success doesn't come overnight so with a bit of time, patience and good investment we should be alright
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| Quote ="TWSâ„¢"That's a load of BS though isn't it.
If the Wigan team now was full of youngsters from our academy in the exact same position, 0 from 3, they'd still get the same amount of grief IMO. Playing for Wigan, you'll always be under pressure because for some fans it's all about winning. I just wish Noble next season, that's if he's in charge, would replace some of the off contract Aussies with some of our youth. i.e Mossop for Bailey, Ainscough for Phelps etc. It wont happen though. We all know it.'"
Arent Bailey & Phelps off contract at the end of this year?
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"Arent Bailey & Phelps off contract at the end of this year?'"
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| Quote ="TWSâ„¢"That's a load of BS though isn't it.
If the Wigan team now was full of youngsters from our academy in the exact same position, 0 from 3, they'd still get the same amount of grief IMO. Playing for Wigan, you'll always be under pressure because for some fans it's all about winning. :3v894qgtI just wish Noble next season, that's if he's in charge, would replace some of the off contract Aussies with some of our youth. i.e Mossop for Bailey, Ainscough for Phelps etc. It wont happen though. We all know it.[/
Dont we all
Aincough has shown that some of the lads in the accadamy can offer a hell of a load more than some of these aussie tourists.
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"Arent Bailey & Phelps off contract at the end of this year?'"
Yep, sad that our worst players at the minute are our quota players.
Bailey, Smith, Phelps, Piggy, Roberts.
They should be the key members of the team, they are liabilities in ours
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| Quote ="fazwigan4eva"Yep, sad that our worst players at the minute are our quota players.
Bailey, Smith, Phelps, Piggy, Roberts.
They should be the key members of the team, they are liabilities in ours
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Mr Coley and Mr Mathers would have something to say about that
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Thanks for correcting me, silly mistake
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| Mathers, Phelps, Coley and Bailey should all be shown the door by the club at the end of the year and hopefully us sign say 2 class players to replace them and leave the other couple of spots for some of the youngsters to move up the ladder.
None of those 4 players are good enough.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Mathers, Phelps, Coley and Bailey should all be shown the door by the club at the end of the year and hopefully us sign say 2 class players to replace them and leave the other couple of spots for some of the youngsters to move up the ladder.
None of those 4 players are good enough.'"
Spot on and Im not sure some of the others are up to it either.
I dont see the point of us signing Roberts tbh we need good centres not good wingers, your solid proof is at saints with Gidley and Gardner.
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| A centre should be a priority for next year imo(along with a 6 and a prop). I like Carmont and he's doing a solid job as ever but the right side is obvioulsy an issue.
As for Roberts he's been a mixed bag so far but all players need time to settle and he'll prove to be a shrewd move in the long run. He is able to play centre apparantly and looking at the try he set up for Pryce on Friday maybe we should give him a shot there.
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| We should give Amos Roberts more time before we make any rash judgements. He's come at the club carrying an injury so hasn't had a proper pre-season and hasn't really hit the ground running yet because of it but neither did Pat Richards straight away.
He's been moved from winger to fullback in his first two games which wont have helped but in fairness apart from the Wakefield game I haven't seen too much wrong with him. He had a decent game against Castleford which is encouraging and I'm sure there is a lot more to come from him this season.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"All the players mentioned are overseas though, lets play Tomkins and some of our other young players and then maybe get one overseas player with experience.'"
There is nothing wrong with signing overseas players as long as they are of the right quality.
Cameron Phelps and Phil Bailey are examples of players who are not up to the standard expected of our overseas recruits.
Trent Barrett on the other hand is an example of a player who is good enough. Pat Richards and Feka Paleaasina are further examples.
I agree lets give Sam Tomkins games and let the young lads have their chance but lets not put a ban on all overseas signings yet either because although our recruits have been poor they can be pivital players to a side and can bring something to a side that no englishman can.
People automatically assume that just because a club signs an overseas player it means that a younger lad will not be getting a chance. Well that's not entirely true because if the recruitment is right an overseas player covers a position that clubs are unable to fill with their academy players or current english players.
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