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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"yet only shows it in 3 or 4 games a year which is ok for a mid table team like Leeds, not good enough for Wigan standards, we need the ball to go tour players not the ground or Alan Dawson in row 3 of the stands'"
There was a number of Australian clubs in for Gareth Hock when he was banned, what does that tell you?
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"yet only shows it in 3 or 4 games a year which is ok for a mid table team like Leeds, not good enough for Wigan standards, we need the ball to go tour players not the ground or Alan Dawson in row 3 of the stands'"
I stopped taking your opinion seriously a while ago
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| I'm with FIOS' last two posts. (I don't know how to put them together!)
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| Quote ="21-12"There was a number of Australian clubs in for Gareth Hock when he was banned, what does that tell you?'"
Rickey Bibey has SL champions medals, what does that tell you?
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"Rickey Bibey has SL champions medals, what does that tell you?'"
No he doesn't. So that probably tells us more about you than him.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"No he doesn't. So that probably tells us more about you than him.'"
ok, so i meant challenge cup medal
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"Rickey Bibey has SL champions medals, what does that tell you?'"
are you really comparing rickey bibey to hock?
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"ok, so i meant challenge cup medal'"
Micky Higham also won two of those and an England cap, but the Aussies didn't want him either.
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| Quote ="FIOS"I stopped taking your opinion seriously a while ago
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Same as .About 3 yrs ago
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"yet only shows it in 3 or 4 games a year which is ok for a mid table team like Leeds, not good enough for Wigan standards, we need the ball to go tour players not the ground or Alan Dawson in row 3 of the stands'"
i thought i posted bolox at times.....you my friend, take the cake.
im still waiting for a sensible post.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"As we know Hock has been given a 2nd row shirt. Whether he will spend the entire season playing there to me is doubtful. Both him and Lauaki are back rowers but can play prop. Hock played prop last year and was very good, Lauaki played 2nd row in 2011 season yet was listed as a prop in the signing press release by Wigan.
As they become more senior players in the squad I can see them both playing at prop more each season.'"
i'll go along with most of that FT.
i think a lot of posters who are screaming for Hock to be the best second row in superleague, forget that the world class form they saw at 2nd row was 3 years ago. Hes older, and hasnt got the youthful athleticism and the turn of foot, etc,...hes still a good 2nd rower, but IMO he can be a WORLD CLASS prop.
hes got the strength, hes faster than any present superleague prop, and......hes got the "biff factor"...the "dont mess with my team mates " factor.........chuck him in at prop and watch him go...............light the blue touch paper, sit back, and enjoy some biff.........
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"i'll go along with most of that FT.
i think a lot of posters who are screaming for Hock to be the best second row in superleague, forget that the world class form they saw at 2nd row was 3 years ago. Hes older, and hasnt got the youthful athleticism and the turn of foot, etc,...hes still a good 2nd rower, but IMO he can be a WORLD CLASS prop.
hes got the strength, hes faster than any present superleague prop, and......hes got the "biff factor"...the "dont mess with my team mates " factor.........chuck him in at prop and watch him go...............light the blue touch paper, sit back, and enjoy some biff.........
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and plenty of knock on's and silly off loads, he will prove me right, it is inevitable that he will screw up again, he is a dumb ass plain and simple, we should have terminated his contract as soon as he picked up that 5 game ban, a leopard does not change his spots
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"and plenty of knock on's and silly off loads, he will prove me right, it is inevitable that he will screw up again, he is a dumb ass plain and simple, we should have terminated his contract as soon as he picked up that 5 game ban, a leopard does not change his spots
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Do you know Gareth Hock personally do you? He's worked tremendously hard to get himself back on track. I cant take anyone that uses the words "dumb ass" seriously anyway.
Knock on's and silly offloads are both things that can be corrected with the right coaching, anyone who knows anything about Rugby League and people high up in the game will all tell you that he has the potential to be a world class second row forward, he has pace, power, he can step, he has the size, his defence is solid and he has a huge passion for the game.
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| Quote ="21-12"Do you know Gareth Hock personally do you? He's worked tremendously hard to get himself back on track. I cant take anyone that uses the words "dumb ass" seriously anyway.
Knock on's and silly offloads are both things that can be corrected with the right coaching, anyone who knows anything about Rugby League and people high up in the game will all tell you that he has the potential to be a world class second row forward, he has pace, power, he can step, he has the size, his defence is solid and he has a huge passion for the game.'"
Potential, you do know hes 28 and not 18 dont you.
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| Quote ="MTK2"Potential, you do know hes 28 and not 18 dont you.'"
it only takes one good season from him.
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| Bake bean boogie wrote
and plenty of knock on sand silly off loads, he will prove me right, it is inevitable that he will screw up again, he is a dumb ass plain and simple, we should have terminated his contract as soon as he picked up that 5 game ban, a leopard does not change his spots
Don't think anyone with the right mind takes you on fella, Talking poop ON HERE seems to be your everyday norm
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| Quote ="Wiganpieman"Bake bean boogie wrote
and plenty of knock on sand silly off loads, he will prove me right, it is inevitable that he will screw up again, he is a dumb ass plain and simple, we should have terminated his contract as soon as he picked up that 5 game ban, a leopard does not change his spots
Don't think anyone with the right mind takes you on fella, Talking poop ON HERE seems to be your everyday norm
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Tbh ill take bake bean boogie on because he's right- Gaz Hock is hyped into something hes not by thousands of wiganers and the gaz hock love-a-thon on these boards is a joke IMO.
He is a player who has continully let us down - manhandling refs / taking drugs / gouging players etc - He's thick as two short planks and unfortunately simply isn't clever enough to be a world class second row forward that people claim he can be 'on his day'.
The only time he looks world class 'on his day' are when his dumb offloads are lucky enough to come off and make him look good -He doesnt have the intelligence to know when and when not to offload and simply offloads at all costs - Sometimes this makes him look awesome but for every good ball there is a stupid one that loses us possession - this has always been the case with gaz hock. He's Danny Sculthorpe all over again! Plus the fact he's grossly indisciplined and will give away two penalties a game.
World class forward always makes me laugh - he could be world class if he had a brain but unfortunatlely Hock struggles for the odd brain cell never mind a brain.
I hope he does prove me wrong, but unless he suddenly becomes an absolute world class forward of jamie peacock standards for the final 4-5 years of his career, he'll always have taken more than he's given.
Im with Baked bean boogie the gouging incident should have been the end, we should have finished him. He's a prat plain and simple and he'll never be what people on these boards make out!
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| gerr'emonside, i don't think that anybody who post and reads here would disagree with all the negatives you agree with BBB on. However, i am happy that most people who post here have a more positive approach... I for one would rather have him on the inside pi$$ing out, than on the outside pi$$ing in, to butcher an old saying.
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| BBB your such a HOCK hater its sickening to read, i would pay a lot money to watch you say all these things to mr HOCKS face. hahahahaha,,, what an idiot you are ,,, hes that crap mr HOCK can walk into any team,, he would have played for england but for the ban,, he walks right back into his 2nd row shirt,, yea yea yea,, he really is a waste of time is mr HOCK, but i forgot,, you know it all BBB ahahahahhahahhaha
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| Quote ="wiganboy"BBB your such a HOCK hater its sickening to read, i would pay a lot money to watch you say all these things to mr HOCKS face. hahahahaha,,, what an idiot you are ,,, hes that crap mr HOCK can walk into any team,, he would have played for england but for the ban,, he walks right back into his 2nd row shirt,, yea yea yea,, he really is a waste of time is mr HOCK, but i forgot,, you know it all BBB ahahahahhahahhaha
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So Number 1 Fan Boy, what makes you think i would be scared of a chav with girly star tattoos, i have real mens tattoos and a physique like Shane Webcke and a beard like Noel Cleals, i ride a Triumph, my kids call me The Commander and i ain't scared of no fecker mate
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"So Number 1 Fan Boy, what makes you think i would be scared of a chav with girly star tattoos, i have real mens tattoos and a physique like Shane Webcke and a beard like Noel Cleals, i ride a Triumph, my kids call me The Commander and i ain't scared of no fecker mate
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You really should be scared BBB..... Dear oh lord, Wiganboy makes me sound balanced!!
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| BIG WORDS behind a pc hahahhahhah no one brags what they can do ahhahahah,, iv seen your kind many times hahahhah,, id still pay to see you say it to his face,, hahahha id love it,, and i think a few on here would to ahhahahhahah,,, am a WIGAN fan not a HOCK hater like you ,,,, BUT i do know mr HOCK very very very very WELL,, maybe i am a HOCK fan to ,, ermmmmmmm... ( RUBS CHIN) mmmmmmm...
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"So Number 1 Fan Boy, what makes you think i would be scared of a chav with girly star tattoos, i have real mens tattoos and a physique like Shane Webcke and a beard like Noel Cleals, i ride a Triumph, my kids call me The Commander and i ain't scared of no fecker mate
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You went missing last year when he made his comback and was on good form, then you crawled out of the woodwork after the Warrington match. Fact is, we all know he can be an idiot at times but theres no denying that hes a good player, which you seem to be doing
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| Quote ="FIOS"You went missing last year when he made his comback and was on good form, then you crawled out of the woodwork after the Warrington match. Fact is, we all know he can be an idiot at times but theres no denying that hes a good player, which you seem to be doing
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you mean when i was on holiday with no internet access
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