nope.......dorn plays on the wing these days.

i give you the similarity as both were top of the try scoring lists, or in dorns case near the top.

but im willing to wager a fiver that if dorn keeps fit he will score more trys this year than any wigan player.

and what wouldnt we give for one of those in the side

I would love to have Dorn in our team Feka was looking for the offload everytime he broke through the line but no one was there.

No he doesn't. He has never played wing.

Its Mathers job but Im sure he will learn how to suppor the player who breaks the line when he is at Leigh next month.

bloody hope that's true

unless someone messed up he was on the teamsheet as right wing last week.......and he scored 2.
hes on my fantasy team...thats why i checked the teamsheet.

Its nice 2 see that wigan are doing very well

quite nice to see last night in ss bar

PV has always taken this 'we don't need fans like you' and 'you're with us or against us approach' that is generally applauded by majority in the room and the dissenter is made out to be an idiot who knows nothing.

last night if u weren't there PV was more or less shouted down by a good number of vocal fans who don't think this is tolerable. fair play and well done.

Im not sayin PV's views reflects nobbys but if hes sent out into the ss bar he speaks for the club and he needs to treat the fans with respect. at the minute PV is putting across this image of the club thats very disrespectful - a 'you know nothing, we know everything' impression. we pay the money and deserve to voice our disatisfaction.

Mr Lenagan, we all know you read this site - this post isn't deliberately trying to stir up trouble but please bear in mind that us fans don't appreciate being spoken down to.

The irony being a number of the fans that PV thinks we don't need will be at and supporting the club long after PV's left the club.

Fair play to PV for coming down, but I think you are bang on regarding his attitude to comments from the floor.

Take off the Cherry and White tinted specs bud.........

Luke Dorn for one

absolute cr@p.

You may not agree with his or other peoples views but to to behave like absolute idiots does not do anyone any good.

If you want to make a point don't do it like drunken hyenas.

I agree, fair play to Mr.Veivers.

Rather than go mental at PV, wouldn't it have been a far better protest to not have gone at all.

Imagine, not one supporter in the bar after the game, PV stood on the stage, looking out to an empty room....what better protest than that!

Now that WOULD get IL thinking!!!!

Sadly we have too many seals at Wigan!

Nobody in our group made any comments, buts thats by the bye, people are very fustrated hence the comments and PV's attitude of ''we don't need fans like you' is a disgrace and is remenisant from a scene in Animal Farm.

Not the bit where the bloke does the chicken

You've seen it too

to be honest I never heard the "we don't need fans like you comment"

But I can understand his anger at the manner of some of the comments rather than the content.

thanks. your opening response is very PV-esque - disregard that which isn't your own opinion as you know best? come off it.

i didn't shout at PV ( part of windys group) and agree with those who say PV is very brave to keep coming down - maybe IL should be doing it?('cept he only talks to us when he sets the rules)

but at the same time the attitude of PV and through him the club is just not good enough. if you treat the fans like animals/idiots then how do you expect them to behave? when any negative response is met with a 'we don't need you' attitude then thats how you turn fans away or just aggrivate them

Just heard about it mate honest

What he said.

I was thoroughly embarrassed listening to and watching some of those people heckling Veivers. Probably the same ones who've taken to booing the team off and clapping them on again. I regret the day the Wigan crowd started booing. We went down a notch.

I remember the days when getting beaten or a poor performance was met with massive vocal support, the crowd getting behind the team more and more as the game went on rather than knocking them when they're down.

And to be honest, if I was stood in front of a few hundred fans trying to give an honest assessment of the game and some idiots were trying to shout me down, I'd probably get y with them too. Fine, you're upset, but acting like spoilt brats and being downright rude aint gonna get you anywhere.

PV wants to show some of that attitude to the fannies on the pitch.

agree with all of that but friday was what happens after PV has been rude towards fans in the past.

I was once in the Saints bar when PV was at Saints and he was exactly the same then