Cheers cherry. Spose time will tell. Hopin for some big games and some bigger upsets

Other than launching himself at him elbow first? Should be min 4 matches but as its wigan he'll get not guilty and a written apology from hicks

Leigh are going to have a massive step up in weekly intensity next year. This year, most of their games have been won at a canter (which isn't a criticism, you can only beat what is in front of you).
Next year, they will be playing SL teams every week, and not just the ones who have finished at the lower end. Can they cope with a run of games against the likes of Wigan, Hull FC, Saints, Warrington etc? They will also pick up far more injuries due to the high intensity of the league than they have strolling past part-time opposition this year.
I hope they do well and they deserve their place, but a gruelling SL season is a completely different proposition to the previous two years.

And Wane is a model of integrity. Gaz Hock has done no wrong at Leigh. Acton can be a c0ck Derek is a hero in Leigh and dont beleive all that you read in the Mark Green column. What do you know about Barlows case other than what you hear in the playground? I said take a deep breath and give us the facts not just a silly tantrum

I think it probably deserves 3-4 games.

And if he's really trying to hurt him, he doesn't turn his back and lose the momentum, he'd charge with the elbow in front of him. Not defending it at all, it's rightly deserving of a season ending ban - but we've all seen worse.

Please don't defend him. That was a shocking. A deliberate forearm to the throat.

After the Grand Final, I felt he should never be allowed on a rugby field again. It was so obviously a sending off offence tonight and he still saw fit to argue the case while he was walking.

A great come back tonight. Once you decided to start playing rugby there was only going to be one winner. As a Hull fan, it sets up a great finale at the KC next Friday.

Looks like you'll now finish second and whoever loses next week will face a tough semi final at your place.

We have all indeed seen worse. Indeed, we have seen worse from this particular player.
However, I'm struggling to think of anything quite as dangerous as leading into the face of a vulnerable player with the elbow in this or recent seasons.
Perhaps the tackle on Fages by the Catalans player a couple of years ago...

It was not a forearm, it was his elbow.

great game, well played you where fantastic, as for flower no excuses he deserves a long ban

he deserves the boot, always injured or banned

I know Barlow ain't playing Rugby League for four years. I know Acton and Hock are two of the most banned rugby league players in the world game. I know Beaumont is a really un-likeable character (matter of opinion) and reports are that he's not that well thought of at other clubs.

You can throw what you want at Flower and Wane (you could call it a tantrum if you want), but ultimately their misdemeanours pale in to insignificance in comparison to those of the characters named.

Feel free to keep posting your opinions though, they're all very welcome.

Why does the behaviour of some other people mean that this guy's opinion is not relevant? If some people who are not you but are involved with Wigan behaved badly would that affect the validity of your opinions?

Correct. Have edited accordingly.

Nowt wrong with it says Shaun. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37354102 Quote Wigan coach Shaun Wane: "(On Flower's dismissal) If you slow anything down, it can make it look bad - I didn't see much in that, I'm sure it will be seen the correct way. "We were under pressure against a team playing really well. I thought it was a great effort and, for guts and determination, it's a fantastic win. "To overcome that adversity makes it really satisfying. We have that unbreakable spirit and trust in each other."'"

Nowt wrong with it says Shaun. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37354102 Quote Wigan coach Shaun Wane: "(On Flower's dismissal) If you slow anything down, it can make it look bad - I didn't see much in that, I'm sure it will be seen the correct way. "We were under pressure against a team playing really well. I thought it was a great effort and, for guts and determination, it's a fantastic win. "To overcome that adversity makes it really satisfying. We have that unbreakable spirit and trust in each other."'"

I agree, i think we should stay on topic.. And that is the the (current) Ben Flower situation, which i have already stated my complete displeasure at on page 2

Quote ="MattyB"Nowt wrong with it says Shaun. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37354102 '" Classic Wane, Defending the un-defendable. It's a pity though, because it was a contributing factor in one of the best team performances in years. Even Sam attacked the line and looked bloody dangerous when he did.

Quote ="MattyB"Nowt wrong with it says Shaun. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37354102 '" Classic Wane, Defending the un-defendable. It's a pity though, because it was a contributing factor in one of the best team performances in years. Even Sam attacked the line and looked bloody dangerous when he did.

I think 2 matches as he was sent off,what i did notice was Patton not lying around after the challenge feigning injury respect to him for that i suppose he will learn that in time

Tony Smith thought the Red Card was harsh. I'll take that.

I honestly thought it was just a yellow. I saw it as clumsy not malicious.

Just to put the cat amongst the pigeons.....deliberate use of lower limbs to the head of Powell to stop the try? No attempt made what so ever to tackle using the arms, defender uses the arms Powell scores.

Think most people saw what i didn't see but i am quite happy being a lone voice in the dark. I thought it was a malicious, deliberate and dirty attack and i have seen it many times now. Nothing will change my mind. Wigan player or not.

Very well said Matty, and Yes!!, in all the confusion i forgot about that somewhat. Led with the knees, although wasn't deliberate, very worthy of at least a sin bin or penalty try - or both, which could also be said of the Tierney try, not given could have been worse for Wire.

In all honesty I thought it looked a lot worse in slow motion. I'm not convinced there was any malice in it, More uncontrolled and careless, If you slow something like that down enough then it will look bad. worthy of atleast a yellow but won't complain to much at the red but I'd personally think sending off sufficient.