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| Quote ="Lebron James"Was it Hardaker who’s missus terminated his child against his wishes? Not saying it’s an excuse to go off the rails but it would take a strong person not to. Sounds to me like he’s doing all the right things to get himself on track mentally wise
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Any need to be posting personal stuff like that ?
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| Quote ="Akinwale Arobieke"Any need to be posting personal stuff like that ?'"
You tell him, Purps!
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| Quote ="Akinwale Arobieke"Any need to be posting personal stuff like that ?'"
In fairness to Lebron, this was made obvious in the published UKAD decision. Hardaker’s legal team argued that he’d experienced a “similar” trauma to Jake Livermore, who was not suspended despite testing positive for a banned substance after the death of his child. There’s quite a long bit about the panel in Hardaker’s case struggling with how much weight to give the “similar issue” that Hardaker’s defence put forwards, as it’s really difficult to judge the effect certain experiences have on people.
As an aside, I thought the panel did an extremely bad job of redacting certain information. Often, redactions are random lengths rather than the length of the actual words used, but in Hardaker’s case it’s pretty easy to work out what has been redacted. I would expect a professional body to do a much better job than they have in this respect.
Anyhow, Zak’s back in training and hopefully he’ll be okay. Player welfare (and indeed human nature) puts his health and well-being above club rivalry. I hope he proves to be a success, but I’ll still be hoping he saves his bad games for when he plays Cas.
I also notice he’s not moved to Wigan and is travelling from Pontefract every day to training. I hope he does move, as it might eventually get him away from the idiots he associates with.
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| Can't see Wigan allowing him travel on a perm basis. He and the club may well be sorting out living arrangements between them. I always thought Wigan insisted players lived within 10 miles or so of the town.
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| Quote ="Akinwale Arobieke"Any need to be posting personal stuff like that ?'"
Yes
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Can't see Wigan allowing him travel on a perm basis. He and the club may well be sorting out living arrangements between them. I always thought Wigan insisted players lived within 10 miles or so of the town.'"
Why is that ? No Yorkies ever commute over together ?
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| Quote ="Towns88"Why is that ? No Yorkies ever commute over together ?'"
It takes too long to travel the cobbled bit of the M62 in Yorkshire
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| Tick tock..... a night on the razz in Ponte followed by an early-morning drive to Wigan isn’t the best idea.
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| Without even playing a game it “sounds” like he is already in bother.
The club will no doubt stand by him and he will no doubt do well for us on the pitch but my opinion of him will never change off the pitch.
Hope he the bus runs past his new abode in Wigan.
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| Quote ="jonh"Without even playing a game it “sounds” like he is already in bother.
The club will no doubt stand by him and he will no doubt do well for us on the pitch but my opinion of him will never change off the pitch.
Hope he the bus runs past his new abode in Wigan.'"
If Wigan have any sense they’ll get rid now.
Why would they stand by a player who was intending to turn up for training with alcohol levels over the drink driving limit?
The bloke’s got serious problems. He needs help away from the public gaze,
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Tick tock..... a night on the razz in Ponte followed by an early-morning drive to Wigan isn’t the best idea.'"
And stalking someone is likely to get you in trouble.
Seriously, mate, you need a new hobby.
For the last time, whether Wigan keep Hardaker or sack him is irrelevant to you. He is NOT coming back to Castleford.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"And stalking someone is likely to get you in trouble.
Seriously, mate, you need a new hobby.
For the last time, whether Wigan keep Hardaker or sack him is irrelevant to you. [uHe is NOT coming back to Castleford[/u.'"
i might be in the minority here but 'thank f**k for that' he is excellent on the field but an idiot off it, a time bomb waiting to go off
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| Quote ="Cruncher"And stalking someone is likely to get you in trouble.
Seriously, mate, you need a new hobby.
For the last time, whether Wigan keep Hardaker or sack him is irrelevant to you. He is NOT coming back to Castleford.'"
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but there is still an incredible amount of resentment where ZH is concerned. If you’re expecting people to not jump all over this then I’d have a few weeks away from the internet (not that I’m condoning any of it).
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| It really is quite dire. I would hold off making any judgement until the club announces its plan. Duty of care to support him but I wouldn't expect to see him in a Wigan shirt next year.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"I hate to be the one to break this to you, but there is still an incredible amount of resentment where ZH is concerned. If you’re expecting people to not jump all over this then I’d have a few weeks away from the internet (not that I’m condoning any of it).'"
No one really cares who you jump over or why.
Just don't expect anyone at Wigan to be upset.
The guy's a muppet. If he's screwed up again, great ... we have a lot of money to spend elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"And stalking someone is likely to get you in trouble.
Seriously, mate, you need a new hobby.
For the last time, whether Wigan keep Hardaker or sack him is irrelevant to you. He is NOT coming back to Castleford.'"
I’ve said all along I don’t want him back at Cas.
He’s more likely to return if Wigan sack him. Powell and Wells wanted to keep him, it was Steve Gill that decided to get rid.
I wouldn’t agree with it, but if Wigan do decide to sack him then it’s very possible he’ll end up back at Cas.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"No one really cares who you jump over or why.
Just don't expect anyone at Wigan to be upset.
The guy's a muppet. If he's screwed up again, great ... we have a lot of money to spend elsewhere.'"
You seem to care a bit, however much you might try & disguise it.
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| When they said he was back in training I didn't think they meant ......
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| What is it he has supposed to have done? It's a shame if something has happened. Despite how it all ended at Cas for him he's still a world class player on the field and for his sake you'd hope he can move on and get back to doing what he does best.
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| Can a moderator advise on what can and cannot be said on here please?
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| Slow news day here. Can't wait till Zak is named 2019 MOS after helping us win back to back GFs.
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| Thank god Escare is staying.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Thank god Escare is staying.'"
Still don't think Escare is good enough to be first choice.
But IF (and I stress, IF) the latest Zak rumours are true, then just get rid now. It will save the hassle in the long run.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Can a moderator advise on what can and cannot be said on here please?'"
Not a mod but i generally like to go off the "Don't say anything you couldn't back up in court" rule.
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