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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I actually feel a bit sorry for Flower and before anybody slates me for that, then just put yourself in his boots for a moment.
Two minutes into one of the biggest games of your career, in front of a huge, passionate crowd, coach's motivational words still ringing in your ears, opposition forwards have already been putting in cheap shots, then you suddenly take a shot in the face from an opposing forearm - Now, in my opinion, the first punch is perfectly acceptable... However, the mist is definitely down and instinctively jump in for another shot - Its cheap, and its nasty, but you can't honestly tell me that Flower knew that Hohaia was out cold?
Red card definite, long ban almost certain and deserved, but his main crime was being lured into the trap of retaliation and being unlucky to pick on a guy who had a glass jaw - Without Hohaia's alarming lack of chin, it would have been 10 minutes in the bin for both of them and, with it, probably a completely different game.'"
Flower threw the 1 st punch on Hohia as he ran past, Hohia retaliated with more of a push
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| flower is a total discrace
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I actually feel a bit sorry for Flower and before anybody slates me for that, then just put yourself in his boots for a moment.
Two minutes into one of the biggest games of your career, in front of a huge, passionate crowd, coach's motivational words still ringing in your ears, opposition forwards have already been putting in cheap shots, then you suddenly take a shot in the face from an opposing forearm - Now, in my opinion, the first punch is perfectly acceptable... However, the mist is definitely down and instinctively jump in for another shot - Its cheap, and its nasty, but you can't honestly tell me that Flower knew that Hohaia was out cold?
Red card definite, long ban almost certain and deserved, but his main crime was being lured into the trap of retaliation and being unlucky to pick on a guy who had a glass jaw - Without Hohaia's alarming lack of chin, it would have been 10 minutes in the bin for both of them and, with it, probably a completely different game.'" then your a bigger than he is
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| One Dirty Wigan Bas*rd working on The Gorillas instructions.
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| One Dirty Wigan Bas*rd working on The Gorillas instructions to take Saints play maker out one out and out Richard Head along with the coach Bugger should be Sine Die!
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| It was inexcusable from Flower and ultimately cost us the game, but it looks a million times worse in slow motion than it does in real time. I'm not making an excuse , just stating a fact . Watch it
He deserved to go and should get banned but please judge him in real time
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I actually feel a bit sorry for Flower and before anybody slates me for that, then just put yourself in his boots for a moment.
Two minutes into one of the biggest games of your career, in front of a huge, passionate crowd, coach's motivational words still ringing in your ears, opposition forwards have already been putting in cheap shots, then you suddenly take a shot in the face from an opposing forearm - Now, in my opinion, the first punch is perfectly acceptable... However, the mist is definitely down and instinctively jump in for another shot - Its cheap, and its nasty, but you can't honestly tell me that Flower knew that Hohaia was out cold?
Red card definite, long ban almost certain and deserved, but his main crime was being lured into the trap of retaliation and being unlucky to pick on a guy who had a glass jaw - Without Hohaia's alarming lack of chin, it would have been 10 minutes in the bin for both of them and, with it, probably a completely different game.'"
Hohaia was prone on the floor and didn't move even when flower pulled the fist back.
I get where you are trying to come from, but it was a criminal act.
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| Credit to to you true RL fans reaction on this thread.
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| Reckon Lance needs to go see no win no fee claim firms got a good chance to take him to the cleaners.
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| Utterly flabbergasted and saddened by Flowers actions tonight. He's ruined a full squads hard work all year and rammed all the supporters backing right down their throat.
If I turned up for work and messed up like that I'd be sacked and I'd have no complaints. I don't think Flower could have any if he was handed his P45 tonight.
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| First shot was a peach and warranted, if you're going to fire into someone and smash them in the jaw late, you deserve a smack.
That though is where it should have ended, the punch while he was out was ridiculous in every way.
If Hohaia could take a dig and they traded a few they would have both been in the bin.
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| Flower wasn't the reason we lost tonight. Poor decisions & execution were.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Flower wasn't the reason we lost tonight. Poor decisions & execution were.'"
I actually said to my mate - Matty Bowen was a bigger part of why we lost tonight.
I hope Hampshire is up to taking the #1 shirt off him because he's an absolute liability in attack and defence.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"First shot was a peach and warranted, if you're going to fire into someone and smash them in the jaw late, you deserve a smack.
That though is where it should have ended, the punch while he was out was ridiculous in every way.
If Hohaia could take a dig and they traded a few they would have both been in the bin.'"
The first punch was still stupid. Hitting someone that far off the ball can easily still get you a red, it may even be that was what he was sent off for because I'm not sure the ref/linesman saw the second one properly first time around.
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| Quote ="JackH"The first punch was still stupid. Hitting someone that far off the ball can easily still get you a red, it may even be that was what he was sent off for because I'm not sure the ref/linesman saw the second one properly first time around.'"
Throwing punches anywhere is ill-advised, your risking 10 minutes or a red. My point was Hohaia flew in late and deserved smartening up, he just went too far.
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| Flower was the reason we lost,
With 13 out there Saints would have been hammered.
Saints going in at halftime 2-6 down against 12 men was a disgrace, they were a shambles.
Still, Saints won and that's all that matters.
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| FLOWER THREW THE 1 st PUNCH
NO EXCUSES
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| Quote ="Starbug"FLOWER THREW THE 1 st PUNCH
NO EXCUSES'"
WE ALL SAW IT AND WE AREN'T MAKING EXCUSES.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"First shot was a peach and warranted, if you're going to fire into someone and smash them in the jaw late, you deserve a smack.
That though is where it should have ended, the punch while he was out was ridiculous in every way.
If Hohaia could take a dig and they traded a few they would have both been in the bin.'"
Oi bell end the 1 st ' Shot ' was to the back of Hohia's head as the Moron Flowers ran past him chasing the kick
No excuses dirty player, dirty team, dirty coach, idiot fans
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| Quote ="P-J"I actually said to my mate - Matty Bowen was a bigger part of why we lost tonight.
I hope Hampshire is up to taking the #1 shirt off him because he's an absolute liability in attack and defence.'"
Flower was 100% the main reason we lost but I agree with this to a point. We've played four really big games this year to my mind (WCC, Cas cup game, Wire play off and tonight) and he's been dreadful in the lot! You'd expect an experienced head like him to be a big game player but he's been the complete opposite. A flat track bully if ever there was one this year.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"www.liveleak.com/view?i=e0c_1413056875
Criminal. Stuart Hall got sent down for less'"
That bit in bold is a completely idiotic comment. You should be more embarrassed than Ben Flower.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"That bit in bold is a completely idiotic comment. You should be more embarrassed than Ben Flower.'"
Well said fella
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| Quote ="TruffleSniffer"One Dirty Wigan Bas*rd working on The Gorillas instructions.'"
That is a pretty libellous comment so I'd be careful if I were you. The idea Wane sends his players out to to physically injure players with foul play is idiotic. It's putting two and two together having watched a TV program and coming up with five.
If there was a tactic on show tonight it was deliberately winding players up. Flower fell for it and I am sure there will be plenty of people in St. Helens giving Hohia a pat on the back for taking one for the team. And no, that is not an excuse for Flower either.
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