Do you read the posts you quote? The point raised was that twice as much RL on the BBC did not improve attendances figures or bring in new fans. Sorry errm

Just seen the ratings for the 2 weekend games not much difference in figures from if it was on BBC1 or 2

Sat 0.9
Sun 0.8

Normally rates anything from 0.8 to 1.3 million on BBC1

Do you indeed read what you write ?

I said, when coverage was greater, crowds were indeed bigger and we had more players. Especially in the amateur game.

What part of all this do you not understand ?

We had bigger crowds years ago than we do now when we had more terrestrial TV coverage .


Oh and I never 'quoted' anyone !

Deary me! How can we have a pop at Jiffy when we have to listen to Stevo's pap every week? The best part of Sky 3D is the it has a different commentary team! I'd have jiffy over Stevo any day!!

You quoted my post.
As you stated the crowds were in decline and continued to decline. The greater coverage did not stem the decline. The greater coverage on the BBC had nothing to do with the crowds being any bigger than they are now. TV coverage on the BBC despite being "free to air" has done nothing to improve the decline.

As would i. The muppets have had their day. Steveo is oft made to look silly because he tries to be outspoken and Eddie is just rubbish. For all people like Eddie Waring, Ray French, and Stevo have done for the game, there comes a time where you have to clear out the old and bring in the new.

Because TV coverage has gone down for the RL by the BBC. Coverage has gone down, and crowds have gone down too.

Anyway, what the hell are you arguing about ?

I see no real arguments or polemics in your argument.

I think you are too young to provide any real argument here anyway.

If you have been watching the game for decades please reply back. Until, I won't.

To put it another way, you do not know what you are writing about.

Just like pro wrestling, the lack of TV coverage has been their downfall. The BBC are doing it to us now.

what a pathetic post !




who cares which channel it's on ?

Try reading the posts explaining why this is an issue. If you don't agree, well you're wrong but you're entitled to your opinion. It isn't crazy to think the CC being screened on BBC2 is not good for the game.

Quick question: do you picture people as switching BBC1 on, and watching whatever is on it, or do they look through all the channels they have available to them, and choose what they fancy the most?

It's proven that the same show will get a bigger audience on BBC1 than BBC2. I can't see why that would be any different for a sports programme.

People have their preferences and are influenced by the channel programmes are on.

so what difference does it make ? and why so many negatives in your post ?

beeb 2 was good enough before for much of the early RL tv coverage except the Grandstand saturday afternoon treat with dear old Eddie W so why shouldn't it be good enough now ?
The aims of terrestrial tv coverage should surely be to a) win back/remind previous RL regulars that the game is still great to be a part of as well as providing enetertainment for the current (but dwindling) RL fans and b) hopefully attract new speccies to our great game ?

BBC1 gets more viewing figure purely because they put the already most watched programmes like Eastenders on it, do you think if they put Eastenders on BBC2 people would stop watching it and start moaning? Geez get a life.

obviously,so it doesn't matter where the RL is shown - i'm glad we agree

and I have a great life thanks very much

It wasn't aimed at you

sorry mate !

We have the greatest game on earth,,,but sometimes we have the biggest moaning fans ever,,the game is on t,v..FFS......

I do have a life, thanks.

I don't know why it's so hard to grasp the fact that BBC1 has an inherently larger audience than BBC2 and that putting RL on a minority interest channel like BBC2 doesn't help the game.

On the first point, I googled programmes moving to BBC1 and found this story:

[urlhttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23922043-comedy-hit-miranda-moves-to-bbc1.do[/url

in which the acting head of BBC Vision says they think they'll be able to build a bigger audience for the programme on BBC1 than BBC2. So, TV people think it does make a difference. But what do they know next to a Warrington mod....

It's rugby though not Eastenders or Miranda or The apprentice IT'S RUGBY!

Here's how it will work

Random person this Saturday turns TV on and will do the tv flick and 1 of 4 things will happen

1.
BBC1 "oh look Cash in the Attic, nah
<flick>
BBC2 "Rugby? is it league or union
<presses info button>
"ah league, nah"
------------------------------------------
2.
BBC1 "oh look Cash in the Attic, bonus
-------------------------------------------
3.
BBC1 "oh look Cash in the Attic, nah"
<flick>
BBC2 "Rugby? is it league or union
<presses info button>
"league bonus"
---------------------------------------------
4.
BBC1 "oh look Cash in the Attic, nah"
<flick>
BBC2 "rugby, hate sport"
<flick>
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If Esatenders moved to beeb2 then it's audience would switch to beeb2 to watch it - fact

if Corrie switched to Channel 4 then Corrie fans would switch to C4 - fact

moral of the story - it doesn't matter if RL is on beeb 1 or 2

why did/do the beeb alternate the coverage of The British Open & Wimbledon & World Snooker et al between the two channels ? - because if you want to watch it,you will watch it.

it's not rocket science

It's not rocket science, it's TV. So I'd go with the opinion of people who work in TV, thanks.

You might want to back that up by looking at the viewing figures of Neighbours and Home and Away. Both sets of viewing figures took a huge drop when they moved to channel 5 from BBC1/ITV

with respect,I don't think you can compare Eastenders & Corrie to Neighbours ! most of the aussie soap fans are based in Earls Court or East Hull !

what, the same people that massage the viewing figures to suit themselves - a bit like the xay some RL attendances are calculated



NO,I wouldn't trust anyone in the media as far as I could throw them.......

Interesting thought and one which I can see the logic in. Moving to CH5 could be a shrewd move considering they're already showing the cricket highlights in the summer and the Europa League in the winter, therefore more chance to advertise us.

The trade off would be getting rid of the larger exposure on the BBC for a more sustained (yet smaller scale) exposure on CH4/5.

Actually, it would be interesting to see what would happen if it was on ITV Granada/North at a sustained time, eventually get people in those areas but not the heartlands (eg Liverpool, Manchester, Preston, Newcastle) looking at us and hopefully working south on that basis. Now where's Elton Welsby when you need him?