It was a typo and should have said show.

No, I don't think they are but honestly I don't 100% know. I'm sure it is down to Sky, but it's pretty pathetic when Sky don't even pick up a game.

Covid impact

Dire dire style of play (even with a much improved result it was still terrible to watch)

No entertainment in or around the ground

No marketing of the fixture what so ever.

Think sometimes clubs take it for granted that fans will just turn up regardless

More or less this.

I do feel that we are limping to an announcement (around October) that IL has f*cked it off and has transferred the club over to Danson. I mean when was the last time we heard anything from him (other than his half d attempt at buying the DW off Baron Greenback).

Some supporters need to look at the present crowds of other sports instead of making a excuse that in our game, it is due to the pandemic.

And where some get the idea that another reason is due to our fan base being 60 plus is hilarious when you see supporters of all ages and both sexes in crowds at the DW Stadium.

More a case of many older supporters no longer finding the game as entertaining as a result of the constant rule changes and lack of verity in play and also not containing as many classier players and characters as there used to be in the days before RU going professional.

Yeah was watching some of the Olympics last night. Really packing the crowds in they were.

And I don't think you can compare the Euros and Wimbledon to a SL fixture against Wakefield.

And a lot of people are comparing it to the Hundred in cricket but they’re literally giving tickets away. I’ve got six for a game at Old Trafford next week.

We thought there was more than 5500 at the game. Not massively more but the announced figure did seem low.

Any number of reasons, the main one Covid. Anyone who's uncertain about the law, regulations or guidance will err on the side of caution. Wigan last week had one of the worst Covid numbers in the country. Again, anyone worried would stay away.

Then there is the rugby. At times its been utterly dreadful. We all know about injuries but often the teams main play makers have been playing. Clueless, headless chickens, disorganised are some of the words used to describe the standard of play. Lam's team selections, interchanges and game plan, or lack of are many of the reasons supporters are unhappy the way the team has been playing.

Things will improve and we will get used on how to handle Covid.
Onward and upward, Come on Wigan!

I think the fact it looked more than 5,500 is down to the fact that we’ve seen crowds not too dissimilar to that announced as being 10/11,000 in the past. That’s because they’d count all the season ticket holders regardless of them turning up or not.

The club just seems totally uninterested in trying things to get the crowds in. I read a Wire fan saying he picked his half season tickets up the other day. Us? Nothing, no word on that being an option. I guess we’ve laid the marketing team off to save costs? It seems like we’ve laid most people off going off the lack of communication from the club, the shrinking content on social media and Wigan TV. We need a huge injection of energy from somewhere, energy and investment in the right people to push the club forward.

Response this evening on Twitter from Lenagan (Not Ian but his son Simon):

Fair enough I suppose but I’d have to ask when they’re thinking of making a start on pushing tickets for games and trying things to get people in? He says they’ll be looking at creative ways to get people in. That’s great but ‘now’ is the time surely. They’ve had one game where they could sell as many tickets as they wanted and next week they’ll have the second and there’s no sign of doing anything other than putting a post on the website saying ‘tickets on sale’ yet.

Stop blaming the situation on Covid19 and in the case of Wigan, on Lam and face the reality that the game as a whole is in dire straits compared to other team games.

For example, as a result of declining crowds at county games, Cricket introduced one day and twenty twenty games to bring in the crowds which proved to be more entertaining and exciting.

In contrast, Rugby League has in the eyes of many supporters has gone backwards and become stereotype with less variety in play due to constant rule changes including the decision to scrap contested scrums which is part and parcel of the game, less quality players, no characters or personalities like in the past.

The fact that Wigan are still around the top four clubs is only because of the poorer squads of most of the other clubs which is also not helped by having thirty six clubs in three divisions when there is less quality players being produced due to not every Super League Club having Academy teams and less people attending games like there also used to be.

A situation which is also not helped by some Super League clubs still playing on sub standard grounds and in the case of clubs like Swinton, no ground in their own town.

The game needs a complete shake up from top to bottom before the situation goes even worse!

I'l say what I always say about contested scrums, the use of the corner flag, 40/20s, etc etc

It's a naturally tendency of mankind to think everything was bettor when they were kids. Who saw all the best bands, eh?



I watched (the highlights of) the RU Test between the Lions and SA yesterday. Are those piles of bodies what people want to go back to?

I'll tell you what: I'll wager that 95% of those who want to see contested scrums and all that, are 60+, more likely 70+. Those people (and I include myself) are not the future of the game.

Ask anyone who's under 25 at a game if they'd like to see a return to contested scrums. The answer will either be "No way!", or "What's a contested scrum, Granddad!"

And people may not like the way the game is played in the NRL, but I'll say this: it is the future. Fast,and exciting. What modern audiences, not a bunch of old coffin-dodgers, want!

I disagree wholeheartedly.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the fast expansive exciting rugby but I’m also a sucker for the tough ground out games. I feel that in SL we [idid [/ihave a balance between the 2 a few years ago but the scale has tipped to conservative, dogged, safe rugby.

I did watch the NRL most weeks (work dependant) but found it so confusing with their rules v our rules v international rules. It’s ridiculous. We have 3 codes of the same game, so I chose our code over the up themselves Aussies. I may only watch Wigan and a few select other teams but I’d rather that than watch whatever code of RL the Aussies want to play.

Well I just enjoy watching the best players in the world. If you love rugby league, I find it hard to understand (this current contretemps about the World Cup aside) why you wouldn't watch to watch James Tedesco, Tommy Turbo, Shaun Johnson, Jason Taumalolo...

The rules variations are a joke, but frankly theirs are better anyway. The SL ban (utterly pointless, IMO) on scrums is covid-related and supposed to be temporary.

Fair enough. Each to their own I suppose

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Are they any better than their players of their past like Fiddler, Fulton, Andrew Johns, Kenny, Lewis, Miles, Sterling, etc, etc, etc.

I think not!

The past isn’t coming back. Let it go FFS.

Unlike the modern players, I never watched Kenny, Johns, and Sterling etc week in and week out, although of course I've seen most of their most famous games. And the game has changed so much since their day that comparisons are pretty pointless. But if "best on the planet at the moment" isn't good enough for you...

I would certainly say that Tedesco, for start, is as good as any full-back who has ever played the game.


And wot 100%Warrior said.

You're definitely a troll. What a sad life you must live...

Funny you never hear people say about modern footballers, is he as good as Georgie Best or Pele!

The past has a nostalgia attached to it and people tend to favourably remember players, focusing in their better games and forgetting the not so good ones.

SOL is a prime example. He was in the top tier of players in the world, players and coaches within the game only had good to say about him though fans continually put him down. In 10/20 years time he will be remembered as one of the greats.

Yeah but was SOL as good as Billy Boston?

You missed a few era’s out there, the further back you go the better they get.