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| Anyone who thinks the Clubb no try was the correct decision needs to give their head a wobble.
All of the commentators, pundits, and even the Hull FC coach thought it should have been given as a try.
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"I have no complaints about Hull being the better side but how people can say the Clubb one was no try is baffling. He was being held by 3 men and had the ball reefed out and even if he didn't have it reefed out there was a clear hand on it by the Hull defender and it came out. That is a penalty. There is no debate about it, it just is. That's the rules and in that circumstance in that position it is an 8 point try and at 18-10 down was a very crucial and incorrect decision by the Yorkshire video ref.
And to add, look at the defenders hand. His wrist is goose necked like an anchor to reef it out and it doesn't change shape as he takes the ball out. It was the wrong call and you know it. Anyone blessed with the gift of sight knows it.'"
Although you won't admit it, you're wrong. The ball doesn't pop out until Clubb tries to spin over to try and ground it. Carlos has a good grip on the all but it's Clubbs job to keep hold of the ball.
And if your on about wrong calls by the referee and linesmen. Start with Marshalls foot on the whitewash which gave you the ball back to go and score.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Although you won't admit it, you're wrong. The ball doesn't pop out until Clubb tries to spin over to try and ground it. Carlos has a good grip on the all but it's Clubbs job to keep hold of the ball.
And if your on about wrong calls by the referee and linesmen. Start with Marshalls foot on the whitewash which gave you the ball back to go and score.'"
No pal, it's you that is wrong. If that tackle had occurred in the field of play the ref blows his whistle for a Wigan penalty. The ball is clearly raked out and all could see it, including Child who is the most inept official we have in our game.
The obstruction was a correct decision all be it a soft one. He takes the ball well inside the runners inside shoulder and runs round the back of him. Regardless of Gildart's honesty in trying to get to Shaun, that's against the rule.
I agree it looked like Marshall had a foot on the line but that was out and out the only 50/50 call that went our way. Hull were better and deserve the win. Sneyd kicked us to death.
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| If you have sky sports and decided to watch their challenge cup 'highlights' you didn't get Clubb's controversial no try, Fonua's disallowed try or even worse your disallowed try in the last minute.What a complete joke
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| If Clubb keeps hold of the ball it doesn't come out - the Hull player never changed his grip it was Clubb who lost the ball
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"If you have sky sports and decided to watch their challenge cup 'highlights' you didn't get Clubb's controversial no try, Fonua's disallowed try or even worse your disallowed try in the last minute.What a complete joke'"
Just watched that myself, its as if they cut out all the controversial points, very poor from sky.
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| Since when were disallowed tries included in a highlights reel?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Since when were disallowed tries included in a highlights reel?'"
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| Quote ="Pieman"major talking points?..always'"
Dig me out some highlight reels with disallowed tries on them
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| Sneyd and Houghton played the full 80 and bossed the game. MM couldn't even manage the first 20 mins before needing a rest, and Leuluai was his usual ineffective self. For the rest of the season we should bin the part-timer MM, put Leuluai to hooker for the full 80 and give Powell a chance to show he is the half back he claims to be.
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| My views...and they are just that...
We are not good enough at #'s 2, 7, 8, 9, 10...simple as that...we do not have the skills (be it kicking or creativity), go forward or defense of other teams.
I think maybe Manfredi/Davies would solve the wing issue as its unfair on Marshall who was on the wrong side. However, Leuluai, Micky Mc, FPN, Sutton are just not good enough and I must add I don't think putting Tautai or Clubb in at 8 or 10 would solve things.
Sneyd in particular was lethal with his kicks and we simply have no answer for that, not one player on the roster is even close to his level. Taylor/Watts/Green/Bowden dominated and Houghton makes Micky Mc look average at best.
There is no easy fix, and where the team goes from here or how it finishes the season is anyones guess...lets just sit tight and see.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Dig me out some highlight reels with disallowed tries on them'"
"talking points"....sending offs, sin bins etc
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Dig me out some highlight reels with disallowed tries on them'"
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"No pal, it's you that is wrong. If that tackle had occurred in the field of play the ref blows his whistle for a Wigan penalty. The ball is clearly raked out and all could see it, including Child who is the most inept official we have in our game. '"
Considering Betham sent it up as a no try I'd say your wrong there and if it happened in the field of play he'd had given a knock on.
I'd also say you're wrong about Child been able to see it was raked out, since, you know, he said it wasn't.
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| he could he chose to ignore it, as everyone else saw if ripped out even the BBC team
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| All the saints fans I spoke to in the pubs in Ashton yesterday said it was a try and we were robbed, enough said...
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"All the saints fans I spoke to in the pubs in Ashton yesterday said it was a try and we were robbed, enough said...'"
Go on redvee,you might get a different opinion.
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| Quote ="silver2"There's something wrong with our game when the BBC news gives more time to the woman's RU world cup than it does to the C C final.'"
Rugby union is a bigger game and it's the World Cup.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"You don't understand the eight point try rule mate. An eight point try is awarded when a foul in the act of scoring (eg high tackle on the try scorer, sliding in feet first into the try scorer etc) totally irrelevant to this situation. It's either a normal try, or a knock on.
For me the call was correct. They have a right to try to stop him grounding the ball, it's up to him to keep a tight hold. If there was a clear rip on the ball then that is different, but there wasn't. As you correctly say, he was just wrapping his hand round the ball to prevent a try'"
thank you for posting this. Having been at the game and subsequently on TV, I can understand the debate, but I cannot see why the three pundits were calling it the wrong call. Clubb loses the ball when he twists to get in a better position to ground the ball. Tuimevave had hands over the ball to pr event the gounding (as you would expect). Clubb did not respect possession.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"thank you for posting this. Having been at the game and subsequently on TV, I can understand the debate, but I cannot see why the three pundits were calling it the wrong call. Clubb loses the ball when he twists to get in a better position to ground the ball. Tuimevave had hands over the ball to pr event the gounding (as you would expect). Clubb did not respect possession.'"
We can argue all day,the fact is Hull are home with the trophy.
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| The salary cap has ruined SL
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| Quote ="Pieman"he could he chose to ignore it, as everyone else saw if ripped out even the BBC team'"
Why would he "choose to ignore it"?
Refs make mistakes, they don't do it purposefully because, you know, it's their career.
Get a grip on yourself before you lose any shred of credibility you have left in that pie inflated mess you are masquerading as some form of functioning brain.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Why would he "choose to ignore it"?
Refs make mistakes, they don't do it purposefully because, you know, it's their career.
Get a grip on yourself before you lose any shred of credibility you have left in that pie inflated mess you are masquerading as some form of functioning brain.'"
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Why would he "choose to ignore it"?
Refs make mistakes, they don't do it purposefully because, you know, it's their career.
Get a grip on yourself before you lose any shred of credibility you have left in that pie inflated mess you are masquerading as some form of functioning brain.'"
At the end of the day he made the wrong decision and we lost the game as a result.
Means nothing as Hull's name is now etched on the trophy. We move on.
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"The salary cap has ruined SL'"
This is something we could debate all day long. Unless we completely remove it and go back to the pre SC days of course. Even if we doubled the cap, we'd only have the same pool of players to choose from, they'd just be paid more!
The SC in NRL is so much higher that we'll never compete for their players and they'll always be able to cherry pick players from Superleague.
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