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| All for Internationals, but they need to get the mix right betwen 4 nations, World Cup and Ashes tours.
Couldn't whack seeing Wigan play the Aussies followed by an Ashes series, and when the Lions go down under heading to CP early morning, to watch the Ashes Tests on TV with a bacon buttie & a few sherberts.
Just imagine how great it would be for RL if we could turn over the Aussies in a 3 test series and bring back the Ashes
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| Wigan for me everytime.
I'm a Wiganer first and English/British second.
Not saying its necessarily right but its Just the way it is for me.Nothing could have made me prouder than seeing us regain the title a fortnight ago.(except maybe a World Club Championship win to go with it)
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| Quote ="EVERTON WARRIOR"Wigan for me everytime.
I'm a Wiganer first and English/British second.
Not saying its necessarily right but its Just the way it is for me.Nothing could have made me prouder than seeing us regain the title a fortnight ago.(except maybe a World Club Championship win to go with it)
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Agree 100% COYB
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"Agree 100% COYB'"
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| Why is there any need to choose between Wigan and England? There isnt. I feel passionate about watching England because im pretty patriotic and love watching people from my country battling with the best from other countries. Imagine England winning the world cup or an ashes series against the Aussies? The boom would be massive because when you turn the aussies over in a series or win a world cup everybody takes notice.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Why is there any need to choose between Wigan and England? There isnt. I feel passionate about watching England because im pretty patriotic and love watching people from my country battling with the best from other countries. Imagine England winning the world cup or an ashes series against the Aussies? The boom would be massive because when you turn the aussies over in a series or win a world cup everybody takes notice.'"
Im patriotic mate and i love beating the Aussies but i get a far greater buzz seeing my hometown win something than i would do seeing England/GB win.
Im the same with football.Im a big Evertonian but im even more passionate about Wigan RL simply because its my hometown and it gives me that extra buzz.
Just how it is with me.Each to their own i guess.
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| But from where I'm coming from.
Which is better for Rugby League, not which is better for Wigan.
And there is nobody who bleeds Wigan RLFC more than I do.
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| Quote ="Owdpopularsider"I certainly am. It costing me a shed load of dosh to go over to Aus next week. I suspect the fans that put club over country either weren't around or didn't support RL in the 80`s and early 90's. '"
Can't speak for anyone else, but I was around and supporting Wigan in the fifties - I remember my dad taking me to the 1960 WC final, mainly because Boston & Ashton (amongst others) were playing for GB. Had there been no Wigan players in the side, I suspect we wouldn't have gone - which would have been a pity, if only because of missing all the "biff"!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But from where I'm coming from.
Which is better for Rugby League, not which is better for Wigan.
And there is nobody who bleeds Wigan RLFC more than I do.'"
I wouldnt disagree with you at all and yes i'm probably being naive and selfish but its just the way i feel.
I used to go all the Internationals up until maybe the mid 90's but i grew tired of some of the grief i had to take from some bitter and jealous fans of other clubs(yes a minority but still annoying) just because I had a Wigan shirt on even though we were all supposed to be supporting the same team.
I suppose that may be why i feel like i do.
And i know you bleed Wigan RL !!
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| Quote ="Jono"Pat Richards ?
Brian Carney would have missed out.
On the whole, putting weak international sides such as Ireland Scotland and Wales does one thing only - boost the number of teams in an event. We need quality not quantity. Simple.'"
Brian Carney? The same Brian Carney who has retired from rugby league?
So you came up with one player out from three whole nations.
The same was said about Argentina and Italy in rugby union and look what's happened to them.
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| Best thing about internationals is seeing the spectacle that is Aus V NZ. Never a dull game. Or any Aus game for that matter, its like the best of queensland and Nsw, come together. Awesome team, great to watch
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| my 1st ever match was GB v Aus at Central Park in 1982
I've loved internationals ever since.
As much as I love watching Wigan / Superleague in general, I dont think you can beat the atmosphere of a full house when GB v Aus play each other. I dont buy into this England, scotland etc, unless we are going to develop the game properly in all the regions
Perhaps they should be playing a home four nations, with a developing England team to give players exposure at a higher level, and stick with GB to knock f*** out of the aussies
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| Not too bothered about England but was hugely passionate about GB when we played the test series v Aus and NZ in years gone by.
We have played as GB since year dot and we should still do, I know its almost the same team anyway but its the pride in the jersery which is different.
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| Surely it's GB in all but name? I could understand Englishmen not being fussed about Irland or Scotland, but England?
Wigan RLFC... Wigan Warriors RLFC.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Weaker? How many of the Scotland, Ireland or Wales players would get into the GB side?'"
Lee briers?
Danny brough?
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| Quote ="moyle"Lee briers?
Danny brough?'"
Danny McBrough went back to Scotland after McNamara overlooked him
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Surely it's GB in all but name? I could understand Englishmen not being fussed about Irland or Scotland, but England?
Wigan RLFC... Wigan Warriors RLFC.'"
More like if Wigan changed its name to Lancashire Warriors or Whelley Warriors it would be the same team and fans but wouldn't have the same prestige as Wigan.
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| Lancashire Warriors ... I like it
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| Quote ="moyle"Lee briers? '"
You are Eddie Hemmings and I claim my £5
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| I love Rugby League and Internationals but the simple truth is, if England played every week I wouldn't go watching every week. I do for Wigan. Says it all really.
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| Wales 31-24 Ireland in Neath this afternoon. Followed game online and it sounded like a reet ding dong....
70 seconds to go. Wales have a scrum on Ireland's 40. Still 31-30
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| Full time at the Gnoll and the score is Wales 31-30 Ireland.
Defence is poor on both sides. Makes for a cracking game though.
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| Quote ="Jono"If RL ever expands to those 4 nations it seems stupid to have a Scottish and Irish side.
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I agree with this to an extent. I think for the benefit of the game it is better for us to go forward as seperate nations but in the current European cup there are only two sides with a actual team and that is France and Wales. Even looking at the Welsh side its still littered with English players who haven't made the grade.
Ireland and Scotland are simply shocking and are just patched up teams making up the numbers. I would rather see the Americans come and play against us, at least they do have an amateur league set up with actual American players rather than a made-up nation over here.
I guess that might be why I myself have never been as passionate about international RL as I have for Wigan. I haven't 'chosen' Wigan over England but I think since I have followed Rugby League we have never truly competed with the Australians it has lessened the experience and I guess I'm slightly cynical as well because International Rugby League isn't really in existence, its just three teams - hardly like football or rugby union.
I know that a few will point out that Rugby Union doesn't have that many competitive nations, but it has far more than we do so it's more of an achievement to win. I know others will point out that plenty of people born in one country go on to represent another in many sports (Ryan Giggs for Wales for example) but for me RL is far more a farce in this respect. Nothing is more pleasing than seeing English players playing in SL for me and if your a supporter from a nation like Scotland you don't want English born players like Danny Brough and Australians like the Henderson's playing.
Personally I'd rather see some of the players from the conferences playing in those national sides and if the game truly picks up pace include them in a World Cup - at the moment its farcical.
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