How would you go about doing this? Noble has been at it 3 years now and we are more inconsistent than ever......in fact i take that back, we are consistently bad with fewer good performances than ever.

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Bye Bye Nobster

I do see the point but if it's only Noble's blame that is daft, the whole backroom staff have an involvement with the players throughout the week, if Noble was to go, then the whole lie of staff should too., but then we'll be back were we started again, possibly get four to five weeks of good performances, whilst the new buzz of the staff are around, soon to die.

Hi Brian

How about this:






Fri 15 May Hull Kingston Rovers Home L12 - 20
Fri 22 May Warrington Wolves Away L16 - 8
Fri 29 May Salford City Reds Home W 28 - 6
Fri 05 Jun Salford City Reds Home W 34 - 18
Sat 13 Jun Celtic Crusaders L22 - 16

Hardly setting the world alight - 2 wins at home to Salford..?






No we're not, we're saying we have lost 10 games and won 7. Should other teams win their games in hand over Wigan and we would be next to bottom with Celtic and Salford.

Again I see your point, but it's not just Noble.

The season is far from over, it's only over when the table shows us in 9th or below come the end. Still in the cup, still in with a shout of GF action, adding we do perform in the big games, so we do have the chance. What else do you ask? Apart from the impossible - a far higher place in the table with a poor squad list, which isn't worthy of that place in the first place, Noble is doing I'd say a good job, with the players he has.

I agree the entire backroom must go, in my opinion they are all failing with the senior squad.

I said from the moment we recruited BN he was not the man to take us forward, we have to appoint a strong character as well as a good coach. BN was never that man, a coach that has the right character will not see the buzz die off.

If this occurred with every new coach no coach would ever get sacked, it just happens at Wigan we have recruited poorly with the last 2 coaches.

Greg was the last coach to make a positive mark on the club, because of his character and his coaching, we need the total package not another lightweight.

If I'd have asked you in 2007, you would have said inconsistancy was our biggest problem.

If I'd have asked you in 2008 you'd have said inconsistancy was our biggest problem

If I'd have asked you in 2009 you'd have said inconsistancy was our biggest problem

Ok, so thats 3 full seasons of inconsistancy. If Noble is the man to remove the inconsistancy, then why has he not done it?

In Nobles time as coach, EVERYTHING has changed, players, owners, EVERYTHING Yet we have the same old problems. I'm sorry Brian, the last few weeks have tipped me over the edge.

The only consistant thing at wigan is the inconsistancy. I've got more chance of winning the lottery that predicting which wigan will turn up on game day.

The only thing that is consistent at Wigan is our inconsistency.

Nowt fookin' changes!

I think one of the reasons Wigan are in the situation they're in, is the rate that they go through coaches, it's been an embarrassment in the past. We need a steady club first, then we can improve on team performances.
If I remember correctly, we were on the verge of relegation when Noble arrived, so we're definatley in a better position now.
We're currently in the play-off zone, and the semis of the cup!
Chin up!

You mean the rate we used to go through coaches. At the end of this year Nobby will have been in place for 3 and a half years. Who has done longer than that in SL with the same club? IMO if we decide not to renew his contract after this season we cannot be accused of dumping another coach.

Noble needs to go, and to be honest half of the players if we are to win anything.

Be brutal to win.

I wish we could bin off

Riddell
Hansen
Prescott
Smith
Roberts
Coley
Fielden
Phelps

IMO.

The all knowing daily star say were wanting Stephen Kearney

Well at least he's worked with WB!

The only problem with this is as has been pointed out is that he has been here just over three years now and the inconsistency has not been addressed. That is plenty of time to see an improvement and we have not. So few people have any confidence given yet more time he would rectify matters.

He is one of the longest serving coaches in SL and coaches who have been at clubs less time than he has at Wigan, most notably Brown at Huddersfield, can point to how they have improved the side. Noble can't.

The irony is the best we played under Noble was in 2006 when apart from the additions of Dobson and Fielden it was a team he inherited. The more it has become "his" team the worse it's got!

As to him being sacked now well if he is not going to be coach next season then surely we don't want him recruiting players? Ideally we'd want our new coach dong that but if IL has not got one lined up I can't see the logic in letting a soon-to-be-ex-coach choose players which leaves us with IL doing the job which is back to Mo doing it.

Unfortunately I still think IL will simply not renew his contract rather than sack him because IL has, IMO, always got one eye on the PR.

So since we have the tag of sacking coaches despite the fact not all of them who left [iwere [/isacked, I think IL will not want to be labelled as doing the same as his predecessors when anyone can see he would be more than justified to remove Noble now. If I am right then he must balance the consequences for the short to medium term against the benefit of not being labelled as his predecessors long term.

Dave

There is absolutely nothing wrong in IL announcing now that Nobby's contract will not be renewed and that a successor is being - or has been - lined up. It happens with players all the time - why not with our coach? The reason IMO is that IL is actually considering keeping him on.

I can't see how he can seriously be thinking of keeping him on after the way this seasons gone.

He's got a decent squad at his disposal and probably the best squad Noble has had in his time here yet he's not getting anywhere near the best out of it and doesn't seem able to motivate them.

He's never been able in his time here to get the side to play consistant rugby league over the course of at least 3-4 months and without that he can't be kept on imo.

Time for us to move on.

That isn't a very comforting thought.

As to him not having enough time here is a interesting statistic from Mike's site posted by GeoffN:

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To save effort for those who can't be bothered to click through:

"Coaches ranked by length of tenure:

1. Jim Sullivan: 20 years
2. Eric Ashton: 10 years
3. Joe Egan: 5 years
4. John Monie (1st spell): 3yrs 8 months
5. Brian Noble: 3 yrs 2 months

the other 25 coaches have all had less time than Nobby."

Now you could say that just proves we sack coaches too quickly given the other 25 have less than 3 yrs 2 months. The trouble with that is many of those 25 were successful such as Lowe who were here obviously less time than Noble.

So anyone arguing Noble has not had enough time is on thin ice IMO especially as all most Wigan fans have expected is year on year improvement not instant trophy success.

Dave

He's actually come out and said the bold himself! Should have sealed his own fate there, really...

It's definatly got the most depth to it by a long long way to the point where he seems to have options all over the shop. Even when 3 or 4 players are missing we don't have to fill the team with untested kids.

That just shows what a poor job he's done this year.

I want rid of Noble and think we should have sacked him when he went for the Catalans job, but we should only sack him when we have a successor lined up.

Noble out 1 day, successor in the next

I shall campaign vigorously for a new contract for Noble. I'm certain he will achieve great things at Wigan given sufficient time.

Do you have the time, given all your other Wigan obsessions?

I have just come back of holiday's and the rumors that i have heard is that wigan want stephen kearney as the new coach... is this a new rumor or has it been going round a while... like i said i have only just come back of holidays....

you sell your kids pal

you say noble is going a good job with the players he has, would you not agree that this is his team now? by that i mean he's had a say in which players to sign/re-sign/release ect??

if the players he's had a say in keeping arnt good enough then he should be sacked for that reason alone