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| Quote ="Cruncher"I also think that teams who come with a remit to spoil and slow things down can't complain when the opposition makes efforts to highlight this.'"
Also the treatment Sam got was quite ridiculous. So many high and cheap shots that the ref just ignored. Sam normally takes it well but you could tell by the end he was getting fed up with it.
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| Quote ="W.T.W"- The Poore/Farrell incident was daft and could've easily been avoided with the ref doing his job.
Poore lead with his arm into Farrell's jaw, in which he didn't like so tried to rough Poore up on the floor by grabbing his collar and a slight dig with the knee,, Shoved Poore in the face and got a reaction from him, receiving a beauty hit
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I don' t know which is the more impressive - Poore's right hand or his ale gut.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Also the treatment Sam got was quite ridiculous. So many high and cheap shots that the ref just ignored. Sam normally takes it well but you could tell by the end he was getting fed up with it.'"
Your having a laugh right? You had someone around the neck pretty much every tackle. The first two times (and possibly the only two) we tackled Tomkins you got penalties so where did the ref ignore them. I'll give you he didn't penalise Tomkins for trying to step off the mark at the play the ball and pushing our players when they rightly did not move to allow him to do so.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I also think that teams who come with a remit to spoil and slow things down can't complain when the opposition makes efforts to highlight this.'"
Give it a rest. Wigan were doing their fair share of slowing things down at the play the ball (Farrell tries to turtle the man every tackle, 2nd efforts and what not). Hicks allowed both teams to get away with it on the majority of occasions and only penalised it every now and again.
You can't blame our players for working within the parameters the ref allows, especially when were down to 12 men.
If you got a penalty everytime the crowd shouted for one (only time we heard any of you, other then when you scored a try), the world record for penalties would have been broken twice over.
Our team are no angels, but please don't try and make out that your team do no wrong.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Give it a rest. Wigan were doing their fair share of slowing things down at the play the ball (Farrell tries to turtle the man every tackle, 2nd efforts and what not). Hicks allowed both teams to get away with it on the majority of occasions and only penalised it every now and again.
You can't blame our players for working within the parameters the ref allows, especially when were down to 12 men.
If you got a penalty everytime the crowd shouted for one (only time we heard any of you, other then when you scored a try), the world record for penalties would have been broken twice over.
Our team are no angels, but please don't try and make out that your team do no wrong.'"
I didn't. I responded to your complaint that Tomkins was making an issue of being interfered with when trying to play the ball quickly. Getting irritated when you're being impeded isn't against the rules either.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I didn't. I responded to your complaint that Tomkins was making an issue of being interfered with when trying to play the ball quickly. Getting irritated when you're being impeded isn't against the rules either.'"
That bleedin' Sam Tomkins again, playing the ball quickly against an inferior team with 12 men.
Anyone would think he wants to win or summert.
No mention so far of the off-the-ball shoulder charge on Burke.
They play the game right do Wakey.
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| Quote ="sybutwhy?"That bleedin' Sam Tomkins again, playing the ball quickly against an inferior team with 12 men.
Anyone would think he wants to win or summert.
No mention so far of the off-the-ball shoulder charge on Burke.
They play the game right do Wakey.'"
Obviously nothing thought of the mellars incident by the disciplinary committee since he was not charged with anything that I have seen despite the incident being put on report.
Maybe they thought they would have to deal with Farrell putting the knee into poore before he got put on his arris if they decided to do owt to mellars.
Sad that the majority of u can't accept your as bad as any one else when it comes to high shots and slowing the play the ball down.
Mind you I agree you should be more concerned about how an inferior team with one man less can score 24 points against you and have another 3 or 4 opportunities to do so.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"
Mind you I agree you should be more concerned about how an inferior team with one man less can score 24 points against you and have another 3 or 4 opportunities to do so.'"
It's ok, the season only starts proper in the playoffs... But you don't need to worry about that...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"It's ok, the season only starts proper in the playoffs... But you don't need to worry about that...'"
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"It's ok, the season only starts proper in the playoffs... But you don't need to worry about that...'"
So you don't disagree with what I say then. Glad we cleared that up.
I suspect that you'll only go out of the play offs with a whimper, whilst you and the rest of your blinkered fans (with your delusions of grandeur) claim to have lost due to inferior opposition coming to slow the game down and employing "rough house tactics"
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"So you don't disagree with what I say then. Glad we cleared that up.
I suspect that you'll only go out of the play offs with a whimper, whilst you and the rest of your blinkered fans (with your delusions of grandeur) claim to have lost due to inferior opposition coming to slow the game down and employing "rough house tactics"'"
Just checking............................................. Yep, you lost...
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"So you don't disagree with what I say then. Glad we cleared that up.
I suspect that you'll only go out of the play offs with a whimper, whilst you and the rest of your blinkered fans (with your delusions of grandeur) claim to have lost due to inferior opposition coming to slow the game down and employing "rough house tactics"'"
how can the biggest, most famous and most successful rugby league team in the world possibly have delusions of grandeur?!?!
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"how can the biggest, most famous and most successful rugby league team in the world possibly have delusions of grandeur?!?!
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You just proved my point. Your not the biggest team in the world in terms of average crowds, your success is largely based on running a professional team when the rest of the league was semi-pro and you only avoided being relegated from SL when you cheated to stay up.
As soon as the playing field was levelled up via the salary cap, your success began to diminish - your not in the top three UK clubs for success in the SL era.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"You just proved my point. Your not the biggest team in the world in terms of average crowds, your success is largely based on running a professional team when the rest of the league was semi-pro and you only avoided being relegated from SL when you cheated to stay up.
As soon as the playing field was levelled up via the salary cap, your success began to diminish - your not in the top three UK clubs for success in the SL era.'"
You're right. I now wish I was a supporter of Wakefield Trinity Scaredycats.
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| Quote ="MattyB"You're right. I now wish I was a supporter of Wakefield Trinity Scaredycats.'"
Great comeback. You might learn what true support is all about
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"how can the biggest, most famous and most successful rugby league team in the world possibly have delusions of grandeur?!?!
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Biggest team/club in the world? Don't be silly. The Brisbane average attendance is probably double Wigan's.
Like comparing Wigan to Hull KR.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Biggest team/club in the world? Don't be silly. The Brisbane average attendance is probably double Wigan's.
Like comparing Wigan to Hull KR.'"
Or St Helens
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"You just proved my point. Your not the biggest team in the world in terms of average crowds, your success is largely based on running a professional team when the rest of the league was semi-pro and you only avoided being relegated from SL when you cheated to stay up.
As soon as the playing field was levelled up via the salary cap, your success began to diminish - your not in the top three UK clubs for success in the SL era.'"
It was always a level playjng field. You just couldnt be bothered to play at that level and had to have the sport brought down to your level due to the lack of effort required in putting in the hard work required to reach that level.
There where no rules saying only wigan could turn pro. You just couldnt be bothered putting in the hard work. You would rather come withthe whole woe is me and its not fair.
We were both crap in 06 one club got stuck in with the hard work and won a championship the other didnt and is still languishing at the bottom of the table. Why is that now we have a "level" playing field?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Great comeback. You might learn what true support is all about'"
True support is when your average attendance increases dramatically during difficult times. Try it some time.
Or maybe not. By the way how did Wakefield officials enjoy the recent Super League best practice seminar....oh yes, they didn't as they couldnt be bothered to turn up. (Along with Cas, Hudds & Bradford).
Ship up or ship out! You've only had a hundred years!
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| Quote ="MattyB"True support is when your average attendance increases dramatically during difficult times. Try it some time.
Or maybe not. By the way how did Wakefield officials enjoy the recent Super League best practice seminar....oh yes, they didn't as they couldnt be bothered to turn up. (Along with Cas, Hudds & Bradford).
Ship up or ship out! You've only had a hundred years!'"
We have increased our attendances dramatically in the last few years but wouldn't expect you to notice anything that goes on outside of Wigan, the self proclaimed home of the worlds biggest, most famous and most successful rugby league team.
As for the best practice seminar I am suprised Wigan attended unless you were the presenters telling everyone how great you are and how everyone shud do what you say. It's a certain arrogant quality Wigan fans have in abundance.
Oh and if everyone shapes up or ships out to the levels you no doubt require, you will be playing in a 3 or 4 team league
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Obviously nothing thought of the mellars incident by the disciplinary committee since he was not charged with anything that I have seen despite the incident being put on report.
Maybe they thought they would have to deal with Farrell putting the knee into poore before he got put on his arris if they decided to do owt to mellars.
Sad that the majority of u can't accept your as bad as any one else when it comes to high shots and slowing the play the ball down.
Mind you I agree you should be more concerned about how an inferior team with one man less can score 24 points against you and have another 3 or 4 opportunities to do so.'"
Rather than go by the, always outstanding and fair, disciplinary committee I'll say that from 15 metres away it was an off-the-ball shot and probably a shoulder charge (no wrapping arm movement whatsoever). But keep your faith in the RFL.
Watched the replay a few times (for comedy value if nothing else), if Poore was upset by Faz's "knee" then he should take up another profession. To quote Ricky Hatton "It's not a tickling contest", Faz had his weight on his arms pushing off Poore's back and his knee barely bends. Then again, Poore looks like a right softie.
Wigan aren't bad for high shots. I personally think we should do more!
I'm sorry to have to tell you but the offensive team wants to play the ball quickly and the defensive team wants to slow it down. The ability to do so, to release when the ref calls, to force the defence into mistakes is what makes good teams good and Wakefield Wakefield.
As for the 24 points, I could point to inexperience or complacency, but winning 4 games in two weeks with a score of 218-50 should suffice as an answer.
Why did I bother writing this? You're from somewhere that isn't Wigan.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"We have increased our attendances dramatically in the last few years but wouldn't expect you to notice anything that goes on outside of Wigan, the self proclaimed home of the worlds biggest, most famous and most successful rugby league team.
As for the best practice seminar I am suprised Wigan attended unless you were the presenters telling everyone how great you are and how everyone shud do what you say. It's a certain arrogant quality Wigan fans have in abundance.
Oh and if everyone shapes up or ships out to the levels you no doubt require, you will be playing in a 3 or 4 team league'"
We already have a 3-4 team league so wouldnt make much difference. How about you get your act together and put the necessary effort in as a club to makd that a 5 team league? Its not impossible we went from terrible to champions by a bit of hard work.
Because all I ever hear are excuses as to why clubs like yours cant. And how its everyone elses fault. If that makes me arrogant then so be it.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"This post sums up why I can safely say the majority of fans in RL hate Wigan. Nothing to do with jealousy over your past success but the sheer arrogance and contempt with which you look down on everyone elsequote
Boy your a clever one doing that stereotypical yorkshiremon his justice, of course were always looking down on the rest of super league were top of the league man you cant get any higher than that, although seen as you mentioned it we need the hubble telescope to look down on you lot in 11th
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