come on give the lad a break........its not easy being the most hated man in Rugby league, the pressure must be immense !! even Ryan Bailey has more fans !!
Great player no question of that, shame he resorts to cheating and conning referees.

I think we are starting to get carried away with Sam, he is without doubt the most exciting player in World Rugby League at the moment, but every time he gets the ball, we are expecting miracles. Strangely, I think he beleives he can perform miracles too. Whilst he is a totally different player to Slater, he needs to watch Slater's ability to bring other players into the line, rather than trying everything himself.

Unfortunately, the only way Sam will equal or surpass the quality of Slater is to play in top quality footie every week (ie in the NRL).

erm...

If you want a real laugh, go on Virtual terrace and get on the Sam Tomkins thread.

"he's the most overrated SL player ever"

"he cant tackle"

"he's crap"

"he's a cheat"

Love it. Talk about paranoia, jealousy and genuine fear.

he shouldnt have tried to get it back into play......he should have taken the safe option and grounded it or whacked it dead.
his handling errors are beginning to cost us.
made 2 against hudds from kicks through........and only his attacking play that night redeemed him.
he was mediocre against leeds too.

hes having a dip in form.........as all players do.
is the pantomime season putting him off his game one wonders?

and dare i say it?......is it time to put him on the bench for a game to help him concentrate again?
Pat at 1........Sam on bench.

Rads would have taken the safe option and grounded it.

its a no brainer mate.
the best full back weve ever had versus someone playing out of position?

Rads every time

no he shouldnt as he was relieving pressure that was being applied. He is no means mediocre, just because he isnt scoring from every play doesnt make him poor.

Agreed. In fact, should it not have been a penalty to Wigan - you can see quite clearly on the TV footage that after Sam has gathered the ball Widders kicks him and the ball.

I dont think there was a safe option the ball got grubbered thorugh on a wet greasy pitch and traveling at speed i dont Sam could of been guaranteed of grounding that ball or putting it dead i think he did the right thing put his body on the line and on this occasion it didnt pay off.

I also dont agree about a dip in form he was solid against saints in wet conditions, played well against Hudds, Solid v Leeds and solid last night isnt that what you want from a full back?

the best full back weve ever had to possibly one of the best players weve ever had? sam tomkins is making his name in the full back posistion and will only get better. Hes probably the best player in super league and im sure if he was in the nrl he would be doing just as well over there. Rads was a top top defensive full back. fair enough he scored tries but that was because his support play was so good. These days the full backs job is alot more than just catching bombs and being the last line of defence.dont get me wrong that is still important and sam imo does a good enough job but The full back is like another half back these days and one of the main attacking players in the team. Just look at all the best rated full backs in the game and all there main attributes are there attacking more so than there defensive qualities!

Agreed.

Brett Hodgson and Clint Greenshields are a prime example of modern fullback play over here (Along with Sam) the likes of Slater, Darius Boyd, Hayne and Dugan take it to a new level on the NRL.

whats the point in comparing him to Rads? for me, its a no brainer and rads wins hands down. i think even wellens back in his better days is a better FB than sam.

however, neither of them are in our team, so why compare. he is our FB so lets get behind him. he didn't do much wrong to be fair, and we shouldn't expect a master class every game or every time he has the ball.

i disagree, i think tomkins has a better rugby brain than them both.

I thought he made two poor efforts at stopping the ball being grounded last night (one was a try (Cas first?) the other the one that the video ref never gave due to Tuson legs).

For me that would be a greater concern going forward than a one-off poor display from him on attack (which last night was despite what some people on here are trying to convinve themselves otherwise).

Sam was superb last night barring a couple of errors.. seems he is a victim of his own success if people are saying he was !!

Bizarre

All I know is that everytime Sam got the ball, I was up out of my seat! Thats the type of player he is. He looks dangerous everytime he gets the ball and he's the most exciting player to watch in Super League!!

He's elusive, quick, clever, a tough little buggar and difficult to stop!!!

I like!!!

"He's rubbish - get rid and get the kids in"

I would be interested to know how Sam compares with other full backs in how many assists come from his hands (not kicks). The greatest full backs I have seen have been able to take the ball in support and offload for the try; Slater does it all the time and again in SoO yesterday. I think Sam gets a little red mist when in the last 20.
Notwithstanding this, Sam on a supposedly poor day, like last night was reportedly, is still much much better than the majority of players on a good day.

Great player in broken play behind a dominant pack, but as others have previously mentioned, is WAY to greedy with ball in hand, just watch some of his tries, lots of them he ignores a 4v2 situation to go on his own, i remember versus Leeds in last seasons playoffs where he ignored overlaps on 3 occasions within the space of 10 mins..... plus is becoming a liability defensively.

If he's a liability, just wish we had 12 more liabilities.

Ron your comment is just plain daft.

Not sure it's greed. He's prbably more worried about risking the last pass out wide, and thinks there's a better option inside. Admittedly he's probably often wrong about that, but he's still learning the position. Defensively he's not as strong as some full backs, but again he's still learning.

Sam was far too greedy last night and fluffed quite a lot of tries by not passing. I hope Maguire has a strong word with him because it is something that needs sorted asap.

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