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| Play it on the May Bank holiday weekend and scrap the magic games.
Make it an International festival,
England v France at U15 and U16 and U18.
England Knights v France
England v Exiles.
Maybe Army v Navy as well.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"You're not wrong, but more due to how cack we must be for him to get an England shirt when there are question marks over whether he's even good enough for Wigan
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Just goes to prove Wigan is bigger than England!!
BTW, MM is English, it was a grandparent link that made him eligible for Ireland.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Play it on the May Bank holiday weekend and scrap the magic games.
Maybe Army v Navy as well.'"
The annual Yawnion version of that is a massive event. Crowds anywhere from 40-60k. A League version marketed well could be a significant hit I think.
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| Quote ="Salopian Warrior"The annual Yawnion version of that is a massive event. Crowds anywhere from 40-60k. A League version marketed well could be a significant hit I think.'"
Wouldn't want us to give free tickets away to just ANYONE remotely connected to the armed forces though.
Help for Heroes offers should be continued but we aren't the RFU so we can't afford to handout upwards of 30,000 freebies for any game.
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| Quote ="Smurf"He's only English now he's good enough, see Danny Brough. He might even be Irish again when he isn't good enough anymore, see Barrie McDermott.
I find the chopping and changing of nationalities very amusing, especially as it is always draws a direct correlation to how good a player is.'"
No, Hes English now because he was born in leeds
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Shurely there musht be shome mishtake. Brough represhented Shcotland.'"
Danny Brough played for and captained Scotland in the World Cup. Decided atfer that he was too good and wanted to play for England. England said no thanks so Scotland took him back. A few good games for the Giants and once again he is too good for us and wants to play for England . Mr Bannana thinks "that might be a good idea" and picks him.
Danny Brough out injured (REALLY GUTTED FOR THE LAD). Pity it would have been interesting to see him and Kevin (it's ma ball) Sinfield fighting with each other to see who takes the kicks on the sixth tackle .
International selection system a complete and utter farce .
Wonder how many Welsh players England pick for the 4 nations ?
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"No, Hes English now because he was born in leeds
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I think you understand the point being made.
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| Quote ="Pemps"I think you understand the point being made.'"
I understand it perfectly, the lad is English and due to his form over the last couple of years and an injury to our first choice hooker he has an opportunity to play for his country and he has taken it, before that he qualified to play for Ireland and as he wasn't selected to play for England he opted to play for Ireland. Can you blame him? Its all within the rules.
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"I understand it perfectly, the lad is English and due to his form over the last couple of years and an injury to our first choice hooker he has an opportunity to play for his country and he has taken it, before that he qualified to play for Ireland and as he wasn't selected to play for England he opted to play for Ireland. Can you blame him? Its all within the rules.'"
I have no issue with him what so ever and I don't think anyone else does. I'd do exactly the same thing. What I do have issues with, are the rules of the game. I do believe that you pick your country and stick with it. This weakens Ireland considerably just to cover an injury in the English team.
This is an argument for another day though.
good luck to MM
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| Just on a side note not sure wether its been previously discussed but assuming both start I wonder who the Exiles kicker will be Richards or Hodgson both top class kickers any thoughts.
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| I have 2 words to sum up the England V Exiles game.......................WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!
Absoulute waste of time, money, advertisment and the risk of teams key players getting injured, it will never take off, nor will it ever get taken seriously by any supporter, just like the Lancashire v Yorkshire.
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| Is it just me that thinks the 'exiles' will probably beat us !!
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Is it just me that thinks the 'exiles' will probably beat us !!
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Bookies have them to win by four. Can't wait for Friday myself, just wish I could be at the ground.
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Is it just me that thinks the 'exiles' will probably beat us !!
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No.
And I wouldn't use the word 'probably' either.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Bookies have them to win by four. Can't wait for Friday myself, just wish I could be at the ground.'"
Which bookies is that?
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| Quote ="Guerrier"Which bookies is that?'"
Bet 365
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| Quote ="Guerrier"No.
And I wouldn't use the word 'probably' either.'"
Agreed.
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| Exiles by at least 8 for me. My money will be going on that. Englands backs bar Tomkins are tripe! And with Brough being injured the half backs are even worse!
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| Quote ="21-12"I have 2 words to sum up the England V Exiles game.......................WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!
Absoulute waste of time, money, advertisment and the risk of teams key players getting injured, it will never take off, nor will it ever get taken seriously by any supporter, just like the Lancashire v Yorkshire.'"
Who cares? A thread on almost every board, a 16-page thread on the VT, players in both squads saying they can't wait for Friday.
Even those who claim to have no interest in the game have come on here to give their view on the match.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Who cares? A thread on almost every board, a 16-page thread on the VT, players in both squads saying they can't wait for Friday.
Even those who claim to have no interest in the game have come on here to give their view on the match.'"
We will see then wont we, what do you think the attendance will be??
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| Quote ="21-12"We will see then wont we, what do you think the attendance will be??'"
I hope its a big crowd, tbh I think it needs to hit 15k to be a success.
But I don't think its ever a good sign when they're sending out emails days before the game asking people to buy tickets.
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| Quote ="Sihill88"Exiles by at least 8 for me. My money will be going on that. Englands backs bar Tomkins are tripe! And with Brough being injured the half backs are even worse!'"
Myler is worse than 'tripe'?
I reckon Sinfield will play at 6 with Myler at scrum half. Robinson starting hooker with Mickey Mac on bench.
Come the Four Nations Sam at full back, Widdop to play stand off and Brough at 7.
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| Quote ="21-12"We will see then wont we, what do you think the attendance will be??'"
As with Wigan games I tend to talk about what I think the score will be rather than the attendance when in the pub with the lads. I reckon the Exiles will win by 10.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I hope its a big crowd, tbh I think it needs to hit 15k to be a success.
But I don't think its ever a good sign when they're sending out emails days before the game asking people to buy tickets.'"
My point exactly, it wont take off, there is no demand (for whatever reason) for international or origin rugby in this country, end of. Christ we couldnt even anywere near fill the DW for England v Australia a few months back, this is a desperate last ditch attempt from the RFL to bring in more revenue from an "origin" style game like Lancs v Yorks, im going to predict a crowd of 12k and then it never happens again and we'll have Players v Players wives next season.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"As with Wigan games I tend to talk about what I think the score will be rather than the attendance when in the pub with the lads. I reckon the Exiles will win by 10.'"
We was debating whether it will be a success wasnt we.....the attendance will reflect if its a success or not. See above post.
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