Yet if a lesser player does something no where near as bad you fine him 10 grand, suspend him for 4 weeks and tell him to look for another club? How does that link in with your post then?

Well for a start Joel Tomkins hasn’t been sacked by two previous clubs and doesn’t have alcohol addiction issues. Joel just got drunk and behaved in a very stupid but uncharacteristic manner. We as fans, don’t know the exact details of what he disclosed to the club or what was said in his meetings with the management team. A ban and a fine were imposed and then a second video emerged. It appears that only after the second video went public was a decision was made to release him. It was also reported that it was a mutually agreed decision but read into that what you will.
That is a totally different set of circumstances and if you refer back to my post, I spoke about reputational risk the club.
In Joel’s scenario, the reputational risk was greater in keeping him on. Another club were happy to take him and his career carries on.
The Hardaker situation is unique and the club have acted correctly in both situations in my opinion.

Sometimes things go on that aren't reported.

Does anyone wish we kept a hold of Sean Long after what he did?

Exactly!!



Definitely not, see above.

My thoughts exactly, he made a big mistake that was unforgivable but he didn't make that mistake at Widnes or saints so it was fair enough for them to play him.

Has he actually played any games since leaving?

9 Games & 2 Tries
Been doing pretty well from what a KR friend of mine has told me.

I Will also point out he asked to be released whilst serving his suspension - The club agreed and it may have suited them to - But he wasn't "Sacked" from Wigan like those who are trying to portray IL as being someone with Double standards try to portray.

IIRC they also didn't sack Mossop???

He must have been injured when we played them then

No, he definitely played.
Had a great game as usual.
Spoke to John Bateman after the game and he said he was one ofnthe most difficult opponents he'd faced this year.

I thought Joel still played for us the last time we played Hull KR? He scored on the away game in May when we got beat and we haven’t played them since.

On the last televised game, I don't remember him playing

That's correct. we played them away twice in a three week period in May, winning the cup game but then losing heavily in the league game.

The second one was the week before we played Wire in the Cup a 0 -23 loss and that night the infamous "Tomkins' in Standish" video surfaced.

Your 100% spot on - And I knew that

The Whiffy one started the ridiculous posts so I just thought I'd respond in the same way talking rubbish

I asked a simple question, I just realized it was another team KR where playing against and for some reason I thought it was us, He was definitely injured because i specifically watched the game to see what he would play like

Anyone heard anything about where zak is up to at the moment not heard a thing since Wigans de soon to keep him

Personally, I'm hoping none of us get to know a damned thing about how he is getting on.

Mainly because the only time we get updates on individual players is usually when it's bad news or controversy (like last month) - I'm hoping he's keeping his head down, nose clean and just working hard to get in the squad.

Yeah no news is kind of good in this situation I suppose

He has sensibly come off social media and appears to have got his head down

Whenever I see somebody post in this thread after a spell of no posts in it I think ‘here we go’. Fingers crossed he keeps his head down, gets to the start of the season and gets lost in his rugby.

Maybe you could ask his best buddy that Nottingham Tiger guy, He seems to know everything Zak is doing

Will he not still be at the Sporting Chance clinic ???

He’s in a residential rehabilitation clinic (Sporting Chance).
No contact with the outside world for Zak at the moment.