You don't see what saints can take from that game! Come on, it was a top class performance. To keep any team zero while putting 54 points on the board is very good imo. It was a complete performance from a injury struck team.

I do agree about briscoe, fullback will be a problem for england.

As bad as it is to change Eastmonds position, I think we'd look a lot stronger with Eastmond at FB, and Tomkins and Brough in the halves.

Eastmond is a option as there ain't much elese out there playing fullback.

I said that yesterday. Tomkins or Eastmond to FB, then Myler and either Tomkins or Eastmond in the halves

Myler.

I was saying the same after we turned over Les Cats 58-0, it's great for the league table and a bit of a rest/confidence boost for the players but it's easy to walk over a team that just doesn't turn up, because you're playing under little pressure. I can see you guys going on a bit of an unbeaten run in the league now with Salford, Hull K.R and Hull F.C as your next opponents. If you're struck down with injuries it's certainly a time when you can afford them.

We need a full back at full back. I can't see Eastmond being up to it positionally in defence, I really thought Briscoe would start to up his game this season and make the spot his own, he did well for us in the four nations.

I hope so, it's hard to keep backing up with so many young lads in the team at the moment.

Nothing wrong with it. I Just find it funny that you all call for 2 people to be kicked off Sky with one of the reason's being the bias that you claim they show against Wigan, yet support someone else showing that same emotion.

Totally agree, thought you made a valid point. At the very least, the fans who complain about everyone else on sky but praise clarke, are being hypocritical but I actually think they are deluded because I think that other than Eddie, who will praise a tackle on a Wigan player who's just run 80 yards without mentioning the break itself, but the others seem fair to me.

+1.

-2

The grievance is with Eddie being biased against a team, showing bitterness and hate. Phil Clarke does not show that against any team. I have no problem with Eddie being bias towards Wire, its his team, we all understand that. I personally don't think Stevo shows bias against Wigan but he did describe Huddersfield as 'we' yesterday. Don't know if anyone noticed.

Not really. We put 50-odd to zip against Catalans earlier in the season. As pretty to watch as that was, yesterday was a much more complete game of rugby as both sides of the game were tested and found to be up to it. Mate, if there's no one on the pitch but your team you can waltz in for tries all day. Doesn't make it a complete performance though. I'm not knocking Saints here. As the saying goes, 'you can only beat what's in front of you'. O'Loughlin played in the match at KR and the match against Wire and reckons that the first half yesterday was the toughest of the season. That's plenty enough justification for Clarke's choice for me.

Is it just me......Or did anyonel else find the games where Just For Men WASNT commentating to be far more balanced and interesting?
Stevo i can live with, and the rest of the Sky team are all pretty good (including Cullen).
But Hemmings is beyond a joke.
His comments about us going back to the top, after the Hudds game, were cringeworthy.
Even a suprised looking Cullen, quickly dismissed his childish rantings!


Time for him to go......

Well first of all I don't recall saying they should be kicked off. That aside, there's still nothing wrong with it. This is a fan's forum not some political/politically correct debating society. Of course fans favour their team. Look at SaintsFan who, although she never stops posting on here, never has a positive thing to say about Wigan but thinks everything to do with Saints is SuperDooper!

The fact is (and I'm sure you're the same) when the papers or tv say something good about my team I like it. When they say something negative, I don't. There's no obligation to be neutral. That's the essence of being a fan.

Do you know were I can get one of those hats ?

Cullen's very under rated as a pundit, I always find him interesting and entertaining even when he's talking jibberish



Always enjored Morgan doing it as well, though I guess he's a little busy right now

Imo Briscoe has never been more than an average player, on his day he can be a good superleague player but nothing more. Alot of Wigan fans seem to rate him so much higher than is justified just because hes a wiganer. He adds nothing at all to attack apart from support play.

Best option for England is Leon Pryce IMO. He has the experience to be sound defensively and has that bit of magic in his locker to help break a top defense. That would also let Eastmond and Tomkins stay together which is a must.

Good theory about Leon Pryce DP but as good a player as undoubtedly he is, he is terrible for going missing in games. He is worse when the team is behind so probably the worst type of player to have in against the Aussies. All in my opinion of course.

Do you not find him boring and cringeworthy? The two other former Wiganers are very good(Carney and Barrie) Clarke just babbles on about you lot, I understand it when you're playing but he finds a way to do it when you're not, utter bell.

And exactly how is that boring?

But lets face it all anyone wants to talk about is wigan anyway

What were his comments about you going back to the top? Missed most of your game...

You're right though. The rest of the team were really good. Brian Carney as always. And was a breath of fresh air having the other commentators on (was it Arthur and Proe).

In regards to Phil Clarke, I don't have a problem with him. Of course, he's biased, but in a more harmless sort of way. He obviously wants Wigan to do well and win, and it's funny seeing him forget that he's a TV pundit and not a fan down the pub

but at least even in doing so he talks at least some sort of sense, and shows some knowledge about the game. Hemmings is just awful. Gets worse and worse. Does he ever stop bitching.

Oh and regarding full-back, not seen much of Leeds this year, but hoping Lee Smith has a good season. He could be a possible option for GB. Have always been a fan of his, and is still young with room for improvement (and Brent Webb as a mentor). One things for sure - GB needs a full-back with pace otherwise we'll get hammered by the Aussie and Kiwi kicking game. Hopefully Briscoe can turn his form around.

*England not GB. Sorry