Yes we were camped on their line for 3 or so sets and the movement from the ptb was woeful.

He had an excellent first half but during this little stint we missed Tommy at 9 and Sam out wide. Just that little bit of spark to get the ball moving.

I think it would be fairer to say we missed Tommy going 9. Every game he has had a stint at 9 this year we have gone on to win the game. IIRC.

I've not enjoyed a defensive display by one player as much as McIlorums last night for a long time.

It was cruel! The lad is turning into a fine player and if he works on a couple of little things will have a sensational career.

It seems to me your too pig headed to accept opinions differ.

And Another.

No, it's just that your opinion is wrong.

It's a bandwagon opinion.

These people hear that O'Loughlin is an average Jo who tackles high, knocks on etc etc and jump on it.

The facts they see infront of their eyes will make little difference.

Wigans best player last night and in pretty much every game all year.

good hooker mcilorum!! good to see him going well

It seems that you are too stupid to even open your eyes and see what is in front of you.

Why did you think O'Loughlin was average? Did one of your mates tell you?

No i was was there.
As your not bright enough to debate without spitting your dummy i will just content myself with the 2 points .

As you are obviously as blind as a bat, I will just move on to people who obviously watch both teams.

See ya.

Sorry can you shout louder its hard to hear you from that far down the table.

Deaf as well as blind eh?

No that was silverwood

No thats Richard Silverwood
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You must be quicker than that GML

McIllorum has lots of aggression and really knows how to hurt them int the tackle, his scoots are great too.

His discipline could land him in bother in the future but I would rather him be over aggressive than not aggressive.

Well worth the starting hookers role.

Did anyone else think that the first reciever was normally standing to far away from the PTB last night and then the same with the 2nd recierver being too far away from the first?

If they would have been closer to each other the ball would have been quicker and there would have been more space out wide as well and the attack would have flown better instead of looking so clueless

I thought on some offensive plays we stood too deep and the blitz defence took us back 20yards.

Not just me that thought that then.

Somebody mentioned in another post that they thought we played too flat whereas i thought we played exactly the opposite. During one tackle in the second half near their line we lost 20metres because all the line we're far too deep.

I was crying out during the game for one of Leuluai or Smith to get closer to the play the ball because in those conditions the ball was taking too long to get to them and when it did it was usually a bad pass.

Spot on mate

If we would have done this we would have had quicker ball and more space to work with. We know we have the quality out wide to score points but we just didn't let ourselves do that

Another move i've talked about and others have is us trying to work something with Feka close to the line.

In bad weather like you get at the start of the season(and odd times like last night later in the year) the games are low scoring i you need to be cute in your play. I thought Hull Kr played the conditions better then us last night so deserved their win.

We're not clever enough.

We defintely don't use our props well enough close to the line.

Whenever we do it is blatantly obvious what's going to happen and they get marked out

MMc was the coaches player of the match in the SS Bar.
Mike wasn't there as he was getting stitched up Vievers said.

Does MMc remind anyone of Diskin?