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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"There is absolutely nothing wrong with anything that has been done by the club. I can’t reiterate it enough and can only repeat that I hope against all hope they make everything public.'"
If what you say is true then Edwards must have signed a contract. It may be that Lenegan and Radlinski have acted honorably and been let down by Edwards, but to say they have done nothing wrong is naive if it is ever revealed that Edwards never signed anything. Edwards says he is unemployed after the RWC and having a think about his future, what would there be to think about if he has signed a contract?
It could be that Edwards is using his current high profile to leverage a way out of a deal, but Wigan should be able to nip that in the bud straight away by announcing he is their future coach instead of issuing that half-d statement. Wigan wouldn't need any clarification had everything been done by the book.
Edwards' conduct is poor, and worse if indeed he has signed something. His position looks to be untenable. But at the very least the professionalism of Lenegan and/or Radlinski has to also come into question here - that statement alone is a PR disaster and if Edwards is right about the contract saga there is a lot of explaining to do.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"I’m a man of my word LSOW and I won’t disclose what I know because as well as confirming the information would be treated in confidence, it may well have legal implications further down the track. However, I couldn’t sit back and listen to people slagging off the chairman and Rad when I know they’re not at fault in any of this. Think of me what you want, I’m really not bothered. Believe what I’m saying or don’t, I’m really not bothered. As I’ve said from the start, I really hope the club gives full disclosure on what’s happened, then you’ll see why I was asked to keep the details to myself.'"
Legal implications? Oh come on. This is a forum filled with gossip and discussion with people using usernames etc. I'm pretty sure you have nothing to worry about.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"There is no bragging to be done. The whole situation stinks but I didn’t want to sit back and watch our fans slagging off the wrong people. I suppose I’m usually one of the more positive people who comes on here but I too was concerned when Edwards went to press and I was vocal in my criticism of the club. However, I’m happy that I was wrong and as ever, tried to put a more positive perspective on the whole saga. In all honesty I expected the usual moaners to come at me with the ‘put up or shut up’ remarks and no matter how much information comes out in public, there certainly won’t be any ‘I told you so’ remarks from me.'"
If you really wanted to defend or change people's options from negative to positive on here about the club/chairman you'd just say instead of this childish 'I know but I'm not telling' act.
Grow up.
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| Quote ="Kernel"I'm guessing two things are happening at the moment:
a) Wigan [iarent[/i reaching out to Shaun Edwards at all, he's made his bed and their letting him lie in it (pun intended);
b) Wigan are working to find a long-term solution at head coach, so when they do make an announcement of substance it wont be 'Oh Shaun isnt coming anymore, heres some uncertainty and ... oh yeah, come watch the games!' its 'We tried to get Shaun onboard, but unfortunately he preferred to stay in RU all along. We've conducted an extensive search and have a (hopefully) signed contract in place for Shane Flanagan to take over ASAP'.
They cant announce he's not coming without some positive news, that would be suicide.'"
I think you are correct
Gut feeling from me is that due to SE very public communications (however justified or unjustified) he can not now take the mantel as head coach. Any appointment made now lacks any real credibility.
What i can get my head around is why a very connected person like SE obviously is, he felt the need to broadcast his availability for potential new roles in the media? Id have thought he could just a have a few quiet words in a few interested ears and let the word get round that way.
Similarly if he was / is gagging for the Wigan job, why did he not just get on the blower to IL to sort?
There are ways to conduct yourself in public and im not sure i agree with SE conduct to be honest.
With regards to the blame. well i have no idea who is at fault so will wait for more information from the club and hope that it provides some clarity
To all those asking people to reveal sources and spill the beans. Regardless of legal implications (of which i bet there are a few), if somone has been told to keep a secret then FFS respect that.
If you are going to call out people credibility, does it some how make them more credible if they talk details?
no it does not
This is just a forum where us fans chat about the club, its not the junior bloody detective agency. Its just a bit of fun chatting rugby, that all
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Legal implications? Oh come on. This is a forum filled with gossip and discussion with people using usernames etc. I'm pretty sure you have nothing to worry about.'"
Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"If you really wanted to defend or change people's options from negative to positive on here about the club/chairman you'd just say instead of this childish 'I know but I'm not telling' act.
Grow up.'"
You really are very antagonistic. Quite easily my least favorite poster on here and I include Rubber Duckie in that ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="RichieS"You really are very antagonistic. Quite easily my least favorite poster on here and I include Rubber Duckie in that
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favourite is spelt with a 'U'.
Go back to making hypothetical posts and outlandish claims, it's what you're best at.
PS, your post just antagonised me, oh the irony.
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| Quote ="RichieS"You really are very antagonistic. Quite easily my least favorite poster on here and I include Rubber Duckie in that
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Richie I agree. It’s not that long ago he referred to me as Big Red Throbber and I swore to myself I wouldn’t engage with him ever again. He’s incapable of entering a debate without resorting to personal insults. He ruins this forum for many people not just us but it’s a lesson learned for me. I shouldn’t have engaged with him.
What you’re likely to find is that he’ll come back with another ‘have to get the last word in’ insult. So be it.....
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"favourite is spelt with a 'U'.
Go back to making hypothetical posts and outlandish claims, it's what you're best at.
PS, your post just antagonised me, oh the irony.'"
If a spelling error is all you managed to grasp from my post then I fear I did not antagonise you nearly as much as I intended.
You post to irritate, you attack any form of criticism/debate towards your posts and now you are verbally insulting someone simply because they honor their word. You are quite ridiculous.
Ps, I still stand by saying Danny Richardson is highly over rated ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"Richie I agree. It’s not that long ago he referred to me as Big Red Throbber and I swore to myself I wouldn’t engage with him ever again. He’s incapable of entering a debate without resorting to personal insults. He ruins this forum for many people not just us but it’s a lesson learned for me. I shouldn’t have engaged with him.
What you’re likely to find is that he’ll come back with another ‘have to get the last word in’ insult. So be it.....'"
Oh for gods sake how pathetic. You post 'I know something but I'm not telling you' comment and get called out on it, simple as that. What did you expect?
And big red throbber? don't be so bloody touchy it was only a joke.
PS your last line? Nice try.
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| Quote ="RichieS"If a spelling error is all you managed to grasp from my post then I fear I did not antagonise you nearly as much as I intended.
You post to irritate, you attack any form of criticism/debate towards your posts and now you are verbally insulting someone simply because they honor their word. You are quite ridiculous.'"
No sorry, I don't post to irritate, I just don't pull any punches when dealing with people who post hypotheticals or claim 'to be in the know' then fail to actually converse with others, it's ridiculous.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"I think you are correct
Gut feeling from me is that due to SE very public communications (however justified or unjustified) he can not now take the mantel as head coach. Any appointment made now lacks any real credibility.
What i can get my head around is why a very connected person like SE obviously is, he felt the need to broadcast his availability for potential new roles in the media? Id have thought he could just a have a few quiet words in a few interested ears and let the word get round that way.
Similarly if he was / is gagging for the Wigan job, why did he not just get on the blower to IL to sort?
There are ways to conduct yourself in public and im not sure i agree with SE conduct to be honest.
With regards to the blame. well i have no idea who is at fault so will wait for more information from the club and hope that it provides some clarity
To all those asking people to reveal sources and spill the beans. Regardless of legal implications (of which i bet there are a few), if somone has been told to keep a secret then FFS respect that.
If you are going to call out people credibility, does it some how make them more credible if they talk details?
no it does not
This is just a forum where us fans chat about the club, its not the junior bloody detective agency. Its just a bit of fun chatting rugby, that all'"
I spoke to someone as close to SE as you can get without being SE himself and he says that SE has acted professionally in all this and is in the right.
I'm not going to say what he said I'm just going to keep telling everyone SE is right.
See what I did there? Could be true, could be BS and seeing as I'm not going to say anything nobody will ever know.
If I had been told something in confidence then I probably wouldn't tell everyone I'd been told something in the first place.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I spoke to someone as close to SE as you can get without being SE himself and he says that SE has acted professionally in all this and is in the right.
I'm not going to say what he said I'm just going to keep telling everyone SE is right.
See what I did there? Could be true, could be BS and seeing as I'm not going to say anything nobody will ever know.
If I had been told something in confidence then I probably wouldn't tell everyone I'd been told something in the first place.'"
Exactly!! A poster who speaks sense.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"No sorry, I don't post to irritate, I just don't pull any punches when dealing with people who post hypotheticals or claim 'to be in the know' then fail to actually converse with others, it's ridiculous.'"
No mate. You're aggressive even when your own argument has no more validity than the opposing one. You rarely fail to resort to personal insults or personal criticism and I've yet to see you admit to, let alone apologise for, being wrong.
Hiding behind the 'I pull no punches' argument only really works if you're equally hard on yourself. Otherwise it's little more than being argumentative for its own sake.
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| Quote ="RichieS"If a spelling error is all you managed to grasp from my post then I fear I did not antagonise you nearly as much as I intended.
You post to irritate, you attack any form of criticism/debate towards your posts and now you are verbally insulting someone simply because they honor their word. You are quite ridiculous.
Ps, I still stand by saying Danny Richardson is highly over rated
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Oh right, editing bits on at the end of past posts? So what is Richardson's rating? If you think he's overrated? Last time I checked he was a dropped player who's applying his trade in the championship with Leigh.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"No mate. You're aggressive even when your own argument has no more validity than the opposing one. You rarely fail to resort to personal insults or personal criticism and I've yet to see you admit to, let alone apologise for, being wrong.
Hiding behind the 'I pull no punches' argument only really works if you're equally hard on yourself. Otherwise it's little more than being argumentative for its own sake.'"
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Typical Phil jumping in when he's sees a poster already being attacked.
And aggressive? I'm as calm as the day is long. That's clearly your interpretation, I could say the same about you. But as you've posted nothing about Wigan or RL in your post to me I'll assume you don't want to talk about either?
Seems more of a personal attack. How ironic.
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| Now now children ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Oh right, editing bits on at the end of past posts? So what is Richardson's rating? If you think he's overrated? Last time I checked he was a dropped player who's applying his trade in the championship with Leigh.'"
Yeah sorry, I got a sneaky edit in but you had already gone on the defensive. Listen this thread is regards SE/Wigan, let us leave it as that. There is zero need for me to clarify my hypothetical response to your very own hypothetical post regards Danny Richardson and his availability.
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| Quote ="RichieS"Yeah sorry, I got a sneaky edit in but you had already gone on the defensive. Listen this thread is regards SE/Wigan, let us leave it as that. There is zero need for me to clarify my hypothetical response to your very own hypothetical post regards Danny Richardson and his availability.'"
I asked for people's options on Richardson. Don't see what's hypothetical about that.
But yes I agree with returning it to a discussion of SE etc.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Pot. Kettle. Black.
Typical Phil jumping in when he's sees a poster already being attacked.
And aggressive? I'm as calm as the day is long. That's clearly your interpretation, I could say the same about you. But as you've posted nothing about Wigan or RL in your post to me I'll assume you don't want to talk about either?
Seems more of a personal attack. How ironic.'"
Do you mean I didn't mention Wigan when replying to a post that didn't mention Wigan?
I rest my case.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Do you mean I didn't mention Wigan when replying to a post that didn't mention Wigan?
I rest my case.'"
Phil you don't have a case. You merely saw an opportunity to jump in on me when others were already attacking me. Says a lot doesn't it.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Phil you don't have a case. You merely saw an opportunity to jump in on me when others were already attacking me. Says a lot doesn't it.'"
I said you're aggressive even when your argument has no more validity than the opposing one. In response you criticise me for doing exactly the same thing that you'd already done. I would say that pretty much confirms what I said, wouldn't you?
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| Can we please cut out the petty bickering and get back to slagging off the club and anyone associated with it?
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| Quote ="Pemps"Can we please cut out the petty bickering and get back to slagging off the club and anyone associated with it?'"
Haha... But petty bickering distracts from the mess we're in! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I said you're aggressive even when your argument has no more validity than the opposing one. In response you criticise me for doing exactly the same thing that you'd already done. I would say that pretty much confirms what I said, wouldn't you?'"
Do you want to talk to me about Wigan RL? Edwards? RU even? Anything remotely related to this forum? Or just tie yourself in knots for no good reason?
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Haha... But petty bickering distracts from the mess we're in!
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Finally... an admittance of what you're doing!
But yes, a mess indeed.
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