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| Quote ="RLFC2008"leuluai is not playing for other teams in rival codes and he is not going to play for a rival code when his deals ends also he has not changed his contract twice and had people bend over backwards for him.'"
Yes but he going after next season so based on your warped view of the world of work we may as well just get rid as he'll simply be thinking about the NZ Warriors.
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| Quote ="RLFC2008"Also he has honoured his contract he has signed'"
As is Sam...
or is he breaking the 'spirit' of his contract?
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| Quote ="[Gareth"As is Sam...
or is he breaking the 'spirit' of his contract?'"
If sam goes after rlwc2013 how has he seen out his contract.
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| Quote ="RLFC2008"Also he has honoured his contract he has signed'"
I'm sure if Sam hasn't the club wouldn't be letting him play.
Here's something for you to consider, maybe, just maybe all this was actually done before he agreed his new deal and was part of the contract. Sam can play in a few of these games to boost his income outside the salary cap, allowing us to be able to afford to keep him at Wigan.
I can already hear the sounds of a few heads exploding while they try to get their brains around that one.
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| Quote ="RLFC2008"If sam goes after rlwc2013 how has he seen out his contract.'"
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| Quote ="RLFC2008"If sam goes after rlwc2013 how has he seen out his contract.'"
i must have missed the announcement confirming his departure after that tournament
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"I'm sure if Sam hasn't the club wouldn't be letting him play.
Here's something for you to consider, maybe, just maybe all this was actually done before he agreed his new deal and was part of the contract. Sam can play in a few of these games to boost his income outside the salary cap, allowing us to be able to afford to keep him at Wigan.
I can already hear the sounds of a few heads exploding while they try to get their brains around that one.'"
On reflection, it would explain an awful lot.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"i must have missed the announcement confirming his departure after that tournament'"
Yes but it COULD happen, so we have to assume it already has. Don't you get how this thing works yet?
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Yes but it COULD happen, so we have to assume it already has. Don't you get how this thing works yet?'"
ill be honest, im struggling a bit
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Yes but he going after next season so based on your warped view of the world of work we may as well just get rid as he'll simply be thinking about the NZ Warriors.'"
When Union players switched codes they treated the player like Sh#t, Rugby League players go and people like you pat them on the back you make me laugh. Get some balls and stand up for the game i wouldnt like to be on the frontline with you and this gareth
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| Quote ="RLFC2008"When Union players switched codes they treated the player like Sh#t, Rugby League players go and people like you pat them on the back you make me laugh. Get some balls and stand up for the game i would like to be on the frontline with you and this gareth'"
frontline? you wouldnt have a clue...
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| Quote ="[Gareth"i must have missed the announcement confirming his departure after that tournament'"
We all no we dont need announcements at wigan
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| All this is, is desperation by the RFU to add some credibility to the event and possibly even England RU. Tomkins would gain exposure and up his market value (assuming he continues to perform as he has been doing) and maybe yourselves will get a bit of publicity. However it's all geared towards the RFU and Tomkins so I'd say no. I have no interest in our sport joining with RU either from an ethical point of view or from one of developing relations/talent between the sports. We are different games and their's lacks the attractiveness of our's.
Let them flail around in mud like the pigs in [iAnimal Farm[/i for eternity every spring during their home nations competition because the NRL is coming to dominate it all in the southern hemisphere. We don't need them. Your own club has a far greater history than the RFU ever will have and we don't need such subservience.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"frontline? you wouldnt have a clue...'"
Your a pussy mate il show you next time i see you
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| Quote ="[Gareth"frontline? you wouldnt have a clue...'"
Even I got the avatar.
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| Quote ="RLFC2008"Your a pussy mate il show you next time i see you'"
and there we have it ladies and gentleman, the end of the argument...
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| Quote ="[Gareth"and there we have it ladies and gentleman, the end of the argument...'"
and her posting rights.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"and her posting rights.'"
just make sure she doesnt see you!
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| Back to the thread...........
Re: Sam selected for Barbarians?
I have a bad feeling about this !
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"There's a topic on the VT about salary cap, the idea i'm for is that you can spend what you want over the cap but for every £ over you have to put the same £ in a kitty that is split between all the clubs that can't spend at cap limit, at present they are a few clubs able to spend at the limit, Wigan, Hudds, Wire, Saints, Hull FC, Broncos, Leeds and Widnes, that's over half the league and if those clubs spent 100k over each that's 800k to help the 6 other clubs.'"
why should we give them money because they cant raise the clubs profile within thier own towns? its buisness not charity.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Clubs that can't spend to the cap shouldn't even be in SL.'"
Spot on
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| Quote ="dubairl"why should we give them money because they cant raise the clubs profile within thier own towns? its buisness not charity.'"
I agree! I would like to see the RFL adopt a sort of Financial Fair Play strategy like UEFA are in Football.
I am currently writing my dissertation on this and it looks like something which could be possible, whilst it's main aim can be to grow the game in this country.
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| i keep reading how is this going to benefit wigan as ashton and robinson never raised are attendence, well there is a big difference and that is they where RUGBY UNION players they wasn't coming back to wigan after they ripped up a team. Majority of union fans dont recongise league because they are very sheltered from it how many people just take to a new sports with out some kind of infulence of a social club or friends? And the old fans of union talk about league as if its just mindless idiots who run into each other then kick after five tackles and i know this from experince as i lived in jersey and here in dubai with only rugby union teams. If sam does rip up the aussies alot of them fans are going to take interest in him and the only place they will get to seem him is back in rugby league. But to be honest it is a big if because he doesn't understand rugby union he wont know how to read the game and it is a very different game even if the players aren't as fit, strong or fast.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"I agree! I would like to see the RFL adopt a sort of Financial Fair Play strategy like UEFA are in Football.
I am currently writing my dissertation on this and it looks like something which could be possible, whilst it's main aim can be to grow the game in this country.'"
to be honest mate i have no idea what the UEFA financial fair play rules are. give us a quick summary?
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| Quote ="dubairl"to be honest mate i have no idea what the UEFA financial fair play rules are. give us a quick summary?'"
Its basically a club has to break even. Expenditure has to match revenue. We aren't going to be able to simply increase the salary cap because some clubs aren't even able to spend up to the full cap, so something else should be looked at.
If a club can increase its revenue through sponsorship and other means, then more can be spent on players. Bigger sponsors could mean more publicity for the sport. If that wasn't possible then smaller clubs would have to look at investing long term into their youth systems rather than relying on other clubs.
I think its a system that could be worked on and is far more beneficial than just raising the salary cap.
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