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| The RFL & SL will follow the NRL's lead on this.
If the NRL re-introduce them so will we.
Should the NRL not re-introduce them neither will we.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Bringing back competitive scrums is my least favourite option. Yes I'm sure there is lots of skill involved but for the average spectator it is bloody boring. Especially in today's day and age where I imagine the referee would be called upon to continually reset scrums or give penalties as the players fall over, wheel around etc.'"
Scrap them then, cause today's scrums are about as much use as a button on a sock.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"You may be interested to learn we haven't had scrums most of the season.'"
Oh I never noticed ! I've only been watching Wigan since 1958.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"The RFL & SL will follow the NRL's lead on this.
If the NRL re-introduce them so will we.
Should the NRL not re-introduce them neither will we.'"
The NRL haven’t stopped the scrums. More flexible with allowing teams to take the scrum to the centre of the pitch if they wish
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| Bring them back. It’s no question for me.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Bringing back competitive scrums is my least favourite option. Yes I'm sure there is lots of skill involved but for the average spectator it is bloody boring. Especially in today's day and age where I imagine the referee would be called upon to continually reset scrums or give penalties as the players fall over, wheel around etc.'"
There are also those who have watched the game for many years who find the same repetitive play of six drives followed by a kick to be boring, especially now with no scrums.
The game is going more and more like boring American Football every season.
What next, Time Outs!
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| Bringing the scrums back makes for more open play with the forwards out of the way
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"icon_cool.gif There are also those who have watched the game for many years who find the same repetitive play of six drives followed by a kick to be boring, especially now with no scrums.
The game is going more and more like boring American Football every season.
What next, Time Outs!'"
What are you on about at all? The two major changes this season both resulted in the ball being play longer, the exact opposite of American Football. I am interested in this six drives and a kick strategy though, being allowed an extra tackle every set could give us a great advantage
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| Quote ="warrior1872"Bringing the scrums back makes for more open play with the forwards out of the way'"
It should do, but inevitably it just results in a slightly larger back running the ball in near the scrum. I can't remember the last time a team put a set piece on from a scrum.
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| Quote ="Pemps"It should do, but inevitably it just results in a slightly larger back running the ball in near the scrum. I can't remember the last time a team put a set piece on from a scrum.'"
Saints scored off one in the 2019 Grand Final. I think the point in scrums is more the brief rest though than any plays a team might do off them.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"What are you on about at all? The two major changes this season both resulted in the ball being play longer, the exact opposite of American Football. I am interested in this six drives and a kick strategy though, being allowed an extra tackle every set could give us a great advantage
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I am on about the things in addition to what happens on the field, clubs having names like Warriors, Wolves, Rhinos etc, two referees, timing the players taking a drop out or forming a scrum, increasing the number of substitutes and substiutions like in Union, Football and American Football.
What next, time outs, popcorn sellers and the singing of the national anthem?
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"I am on about the things in addition to what happens on the field, clubs having names like Warriors, Wolves, Rhinos etc, two referees, timing the players taking a drop out or forming a scrum, increasing the number of substitutes and substiutions like in Union, Football and American Football.
What next, time outs, popcorn sellers and the singing of the national anthem?'"
Why not, time outs allow for extra ad breaks on tv therefore increasing revenue, popcorn is just a no brainer, maybe they could have pie & bovril sellers too. As for the national anthem, surely all the brexit voting nationalists would love it.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"I am on about the things in addition to what happens on the field, clubs having names like Warriors, Wolves, Rhinos etc, two referees, timing the players taking a drop out or forming a scrum, increasing the number of substitutes and substiutions like in Union, Football and American Football.
What next, time outs, popcorn sellers and the singing of the national anthem?'"
Ignoring the fact the Super League don't have two referees, and have reduced, not increased, the number of substitutions - what on earth has all that got to do with whether we should retain scrums or not?
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| Not yet, but we are following as usual!
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Not yet, but we are following as usual!'"
So nothing to do with removing scrums then, which in turn has nothing to do with us becoming more like the NFL. Gotcha
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| Quote ="Grimmy"So nothing to do with removing scrums then, which in turn has nothing to do with us becoming more like the NFL. Gotcha
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It doe's not take long to get you to take the bait, does it!
p.s. How is United going on these days?
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"It doe's not take long to get you to take the bait, does it!
p.s. How is United going on these days?'"
How should I know? I don't watch football. What has that got to do with scrums?
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| My view is that they are not required but what is an unknown is the impact on the overall game not having these short breaks.
Purpose of scrums in rugby league was:
- Quick restart (We have found a quicker way by removing them)
- Advantage to attacking team to have 1 on 1 attack vs defence (Stats show not many tries scored from scrums)
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Saints scored off one in the 2019 Grand Final. I think the point in scrums is more the brief rest though than any plays a team might do off them.'"
That try should not have been given because the scrum half never retired to behind the scrum. He was offside and a penalty to Salford.
Either have proper scrums or bin them. I say bin them and I've been watching since 1965.
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"That try should not have been given because the scrum half never retired to behind the scrum. He was offside and a penalty to Salford.
Either have proper scrums or bin them. I say bin them and I've been watching since 1965.'"
Nah that's not a rule. You're getting mixed up with the defending scrum half. The attacking scrum half is onside as long as he isn't ahead of the front row of the scrum (which never happens due to the fact he feeds it). He can go where he wants once he has fed the ball in.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Nah that's not a rule. You're getting mixed up with the defending scrum half. The attacking scrum half is onside as long as he isn't ahead of the front row of the scrum (which never happens due to the fact he feeds it). He can go where he wants once he has fed the ball in.'"
Thanks for correcting me but I still say bin 'em.
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| The new rules in the NRL have made scrums that bit more dangerous with being able go split the field. Keep them for me.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"How should I know? I don't watch football. What has that got to do with scrums?
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So are you saying that you are not Grimshaw on Wigan World?
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"So are you saying that you are not Grimshaw on Wigan World?'"
Not me I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"The new rules in the NRL have made scrums that bit more dangerous with being able go split the field. Keep them for me.'"
I agree. I get irritated with the NRL's constant rule tweaks, but i have to say, this one has worked very well.
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