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| talk about deluded wiganrl you just made yourself look like an idiot, how can we judged on todays performance for a place in Super League 2014?????
your team you just got owned by a team that was put together for the Championship with a budget of about £300,000!!
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| I wasn't basing it solely on today but when you consider that the banner in your stand says 2014 which is 1 season away and Leigh can only put 30 on a reserve side then that to me is worrying I saw at least 5 knock ons in try scoring positions against better opposition you would have been punished for such mistakes even in the Championship. This is without bringing up the fact that Leigh still happily field Rob Parker and Stuart Littler in your starting 13 in Super League they wouldn't last 20 minutes a game as both along with various other last look out of shape Duffy & Coyle included.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"I wasn't basing it solely on today but when you consider that the banner in your stand says 2014 which is 1 season away and Leigh can only put 30 on a reserve side then that to me is worrying I saw at least 5 knock ons in try scoring positions against better opposition you would have been punished for such mistakes even in the Championship. This is without bringing up the fact that Leigh still happily field Rob Parker and Stuart Littler in your starting 13 in Super League they wouldn't last 20 minutes a game as both along with various other last look out of shape Duffy & Coyle included.'"
Typical super league pie eating blinker wearing rugby watcher. Do you really think that Leigh would have a team and setup like that in SL? With the money that you lot recieve we could be a very good SL club. Anyone who has been to the LSV would see that the whole setup is miles better than most of the SL clubs. Get a grip.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"If I'd known it would be as poor as that I'd have pulled a Liam Ridgewell with my £13 why we didn't play more first teamers today is beyond me what's the point arranging 4 friendlies when only 3 have any element of first team about it, Leigh are dreaming if they think 2014 is a realistic target for Super League they were beyond poor today they must have knocked on 5 times in scoring positions, 90% of today's side won't even get a look in when it comes to the first team so why not play a blend of youth and experience using the likes of Lloyd & Gelling with Hansen, Hughes, Lauaki, Prescott, Tudon etc. I'm sorry but Thornley will not make it at Wigan he is hopeless under the high ball and countless times he forgot he had a Winger on the outside of him god help Richards if Thornley is ever his inside man. Logan will never be better than he is now he is at his limit now and why Taylor played today is beyond me it was his debut and I don't think he played much more than 20 minutes in the space of two spells on the field.'"
Jesus wept sunshine, it was one game. We played with an inexperienced six and chopped and changed the team throughout the match. We weren't very coherent, but for a first hit out, against a very well organised and very motivated Leigh team, our lads showed up well.
We were rusty, with dropped balls, and missed opportunities but these can be worked on throughout the year. Kudos to Leigh though, they look to have a good side this year, and although unlikely, I'd love to see them in SL in 2014.
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| Quote ="TV BOY":hpj0n73tTypical super league pie eating blinker wearing rugby watcher. Do you really think that Leigh would have a team and setup like that in SL? With the money that you lot recieve we could be a very good SL club. Anyone who has been to the LSV would see that the whole setup is miles better than most of the SL clubs. Get a grip.'"
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| It's Funny TV Boy you think that purely on the money you get from Super League would make you a "very good SL Club" didn't see much of that from Widnes in 2012 and don't expect much better from 2013 with an equally decent setup. You had a 2,800 crowd and arguably 2,000 of that was Wigan fans so much so we were allocated a larger stand at an away ground for our reserve side and yet you think you'd be a very good side in SL and I'm the one that needs to get a grip.
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| Like I said you're just another blinkered SL rugby watcher.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"It's Funny TV Boy you think that purely on the money you get from Super League would make you a "very good SL Club" didn't see much of that from Widnes in 2012 and don't expect much better from 2013 with an equally decent setup. You had a 2,800 crowd and arguably 2,000 of that was Wigan fans so much so we were allocated a larger stand at an away ground for our reserve side and yet you think you'd be a very good side in SL and I'm the one that needs to get a grip.'"
I`d have said 2799 at least..........Anyway have you got school in the morning or were you that annoying t**t with the drum?
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| Quote ="wiganrl"You had a 2,800 crowd and arguably 2,000 of that was Wigan fans so much so we were allocated a larger stand at an away ground for our reserve side'"
Might want to show your calculations for that one.
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| Neither thanks just stating the fact that if Leigh or TV BOY thinks that Leigh would be a good addition to Super League 2014 then they and he is deluded when they made heavy weather of putting 30 points on a team of kids.
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| Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"
Impressed it has dave woods commentating aswell..'"
Well it wasn't Dave Woods, but Mark Wilson who does the Wigan commentaries on Wish FM.
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| Disprove me Leyther_Matt you know that there was less than 1,000 Leigh fans WAY less.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"Neither thanks just stating the fact that if Leigh or TV BOY thinks that Leigh would be a good addition to Super League 2014 then they and he is deluded when they made heavy weather of putting 30 points on a team of kids.'"
Ok
I really need to up my cardio-vascular activity after reading that.......... and breathe.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"Disprove me Leyther_Matt you know that there was less than 1,000 Leigh fans WAY less.'"
There was comfortably 1,000 in the North Stand alone. I sat at the northerly end of the West Stand which was pretty busy with only a handful of Wigan fans as far as I could see. Can't comment on how many Wigan fans were at the other end of the West but as that half of the stand only holds c1,700 it must have been a bit of a squash if you had 2,000 there?!
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"There was comfortably 1,000 in the North Stand alone. I sat at the northerly end of the West Stand which was pretty busy with only a handful of Wigan fans as far as I could see. Can't comment on how many Wigan fans were at the other end of the West but as that half of the stand only holds c1,700 it must have been a bit of a squash if you had 2,000 there?!'"
All us Wigan fans were directed to the south end of the stand afaik.
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| From the stand that I was sat in I saw 2 Leigh fans from the moment I went through the turnstiles to when I left and the the end stand I saw a stand that was at best 20% full which would make less than 1,000 for the entire time I was there I'd struggle to say I saw 800 Leigh fans today.
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| You are being just plain silly.
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| Wigan took around 1000 today. The majority of which were in the RHS of the West stand. The LHS was made up of Leigh (I know as I had moved from there to be sat with some friends instead). Even on the RHS there was a decent spattering of Leythers, so I'm not sure where this 800 of them has come from??
Bearing in mind they had a good number on the terracing too!
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| Nothing is decided in January! Arguably the best side in the Championship over the past few years has been Halifax and they're having similar discussions on their forum about how poorly they are looking in pre-season!
Now I don't know why fans expect players to be at their best in January but they've just been concentrating on fitness so ball skills and moves will take a few weeks to tinker with. Also considering it was a mix of first team and predominantly youngsters for both sides it shouldn't be taken any other way than a little money spinner for the club chairman and a bit of a hit out for the squad players.
Next week I think there will be more Wigan and HKR first teamers than there were today but again it will be most of their first hit outs of the season where cob webs will be blown off and moves practiced in a higher intensity game than they get in training. Thins will go wrong but that is what these games are about for a coach so he can get it right in the weeks coming up to the start of the season.
Hope to see plenty of you making your way over to Craven Park next week, should be a decent crowd for a friendly and probably back to the good old days of sharing the East Stand with opposition supporters!
Safe journey!
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| I thought you had given up on watching wigan bilko
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| Quote ="wiganrl"Neither thanks just stating the fact that if Leigh or TV BOY thinks that Leigh would be a good addition to Super League 2014 then they and he is deluded when they made heavy weather of putting 30 points on a team of kids.'"
Wiganrl, I think its about time this attitude of we are greater than you went out of the window and to say that they made heavy weather of putting 30 points on a bunch of kids does not ring true.
I am a Wigan supporter and all week all I have read is Wigan are putting a good balance of players with first team experiance picked out of the 25 man named squad.
Wigan got beat today by a team who wanted to try and prove something,this they did by playing with more intensity than Wigan. It meant something to them.
But dont try and throw a diversion by saying that Leigh will never get into S/L,it is now a well run club who have their dreams and ambitions. Wether they will achieve these ambitions is hard to tell,but give them the chance.
Lets have less of this looking down our noses at other teams,saying we had more fans at the match than they had.
The atmosphere today both in town and at the Wren before the match was a look back in time,I spent time with both Leigh fans and Wigan fans and enjoyed the banter.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"From the stand that I was sat in I saw 2 Leigh fans from the moment I went through the turnstiles to when I left and the the end stand I saw a stand that was at best 20% full which would make less than 1,000 for the entire time I was there I'd struggle to say I saw 800 Leigh fans today.'"
I've attended every game at that Stadium, I know what the ground holds and I have a fair idea of what the attendance is by looking at how full various sections of the ground are. Your numbers are completely wrong.
Out of the 2800+ on today I would estimate that Wigan brought 8-900 -- 1,000 at a push. The remaining 2000-1800 were Leigh fans and their spread was similar to what I would see at a home game with an 1800-2000 attendance and virtually no away fans.
An impressive turnout from the Wigan fans, but lets not be ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I thought only Greg Burke of Wigan really showed up today.
I was disappointed with Wigans starting front row of Dudson, Tomkins and Taylor, and as you say that gave the Leigh pack dominance. They also exploited the inexperience on Wigans right edge (Burgess a winger playing centre and Manfreddi)
You mentioned the Wigan 6 & 7, but I think you're being a little harsh. Powell had to pull out through injury leaving Hampshire, normally a 6 to fill in at 7 and Carberry normally a hooker or back row to fill in at 6.
Just another point have you ever seen a game where a team has not been awarded a single penalty in the match?'"
I was made aware after the game refn Powell, who I understand you have high hopes for and I assumed had played.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"Disprove me Leyther_Matt you know that there was less than 1,000 Leigh fans WAY less.'"
You want to stop suckin them Uncle Joes the fumes are affecting your eyesight ive been to nearly every game at Leigh Sports Village and at best Wigan had 700 fans and well done to them who could be bothered turning up to see the full time lads young or not you turned out against a team of part timers.
Wigan had some of British games best young players on show today and it was a good experience for them more Wigginers should have turned up to support them
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| Quote ="wiganrl"Neither thanks just stating the fact that if Leigh or TV BOY thinks that Leigh would be a good addition to Super League 2014 then they and he is deluded when they made heavy weather of putting 30 points on a team of kids.'"
Tell you what mate , i agree we did make heavy weather of the game , we MUST have bombed maybe at least 30 points with dropped balls over the line , in truth the score should have been 60 points for the Leythers , i was in the Stand you was sat in , at the North end though , at least 2000 leythers there .
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