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| Quote ="Dave T"Is this the thread to have a sneer at Wire and turn it into a Wigan v Wire thread again?
In a thread where BK is asking for more debate, the above thread is a perfect example of why many go downhill.'"
I was quoting Bilkos post about wire_85 and why fans should let wire supporters have there bit of happiness..is that ok ?
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Think this is the point which is being made, people get an invite like this to troll, and they take it with both hands.'"
So i should stop giving my opinion just incase someone finds a fault in it and as a troll ???
What i said i believe sorry if you dont, but thats what having personal opinions means.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"I was quoting Bilkos post about wire_85 and why fans should let wire supporters have there bit of happiness..is that ok ?'" But you couldn't help add your own little dig, comparing us with Sheffield. Either way, do what you want, it's 'your' board.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Just wait till you meet him then
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Why whats wrong with? does he look like that avator you have
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| Quote ="Dave T"But you couldn't help add your own little dig, comparing us with Sheffield. Either way, do what you want, it's 'your' board.'"
But you do remind me of Sheffield..a unsuccessful club who had there day in the sun...have i said anything thats not true ?
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"But you do remind me of Sheffield..a unsuccessful club who had there day in the sun...have i said anything thats not true ?'" Warrington RLFC are nothing like Sheffield Eagles, however I'm not interested in debating that.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"So i should stop giving my opinion just incase someone finds a fault in it and as a troll ???
What i said i believe sorry if you dont, but thats what having personal opinions means.'" Just giving a reason mate for the 1st post.....not saying im right or wrong.
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| Quote ="Dave T"Warrington RLFC are nothing like Sheffield Eagles, however I'm not interested in debating that.'"
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"In your opinion'" Which has a hell of a lot of facts to back it up. You don't. Your only comparison is that we haven't been that succesful, and neither had they.
Other than that, there is next to nothing we have in common.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"But you do remind me of Sheffield..a unsuccessful club who had there day in the sun...have i said anything thats not true ?'" Yes, what comparisons are there, please explain and compare.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Yes, what comparisons are there, please explain and compare.'"
you will find all your looking for in the post you quoted..A unsuccessful side making most of there Wembley day
Should i have said Castleford in 94 there fans believed that was the start of a new era. This could be a start of some success for wire. I'm comparing reactions mate nothing more
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"OK, so the final is the new Hollywood Blockbuster, and instead of having Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie in the starring roles, we now have two actors from Coronation Street.
Certain Corrie actors are very good, but they don't exactly have Brangelina's profile, do they?
So, the question is this. Knowing that, even though they have the two most deserving teams, the final isn't exactly going to be glamorous, or an easy sell. How much harder are the RFL going to have to work to sell this final to the general public, ie NON-RL fans, or are they better off not bothering, and hoping they get two teams next year who are more famous and already in the public conscious?
Discuss.'" i'm afraid when you get arrogant people posting things like this you leave yourselves wide open to ridicule!
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"you will find all your looking for in the post you quoted..A unsuccessful side making most of there Wembley day
Should i have said Castleford in 94 there fans believed that was the start of a new era. This could be a start of some success for wire. I'm comparing reactions mate nothing more'" Despite saying I won't debate this, here goes!
I actually do feel that the comparison would have been better if you had said Cas. It would have even been better to compare our reaction to ourselves in 1990.
Sheffield as a club, and as a fanbase was a whole different scenario to us, and that is why I found the comparison strange, and assumed it was a pi$$-take.
Sheffield had very little history, had had very little success in the past, had a very small fanbase, and actually nobody gave them a chance of doing anything in the final.
Nobody had ever expected much from the Eagles. Wire have under-performed for a number of years, however have a decent sized fanbase, have a long history, had some success in the past (nowhere near enough for my liking!) and the future looks much more rosy than that of the Eagles 10 years ago.
Almost everything is in place at Warrington, all apart from any on-field success. That wasn;t the case at Sheffield last time. The hope was that the Wembley trip would give their overall club a boost, however the off-field stuff at Wire isn;t the issue.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"you will find all your looking for in the post you quoted..A unsuccessful side making most of there Wembley day
Should i have said Castleford in 94 there fans believed that was the start of a new era. This could be a start of some success for wire. I'm comparing reactions mate nothing more'" But Warrington have won more than 30 cups and been to more than 50 finals........now how does that compare to sheffield.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"But Warrington have won more than 30 cups and been to more than 50 finals........now how does that compare to sheffield.'"
But wiganers are not allowed to talk about post 96 remember ?
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"But wiganers are not allowed to talk about post 96 remember ?
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| Quote ="Dave T"To be fair you are confusing us with Saints fans there, they are the ones who think RL started with the formation of SL.'"
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| Always found out, history is as far back as suites. thats it for me goodnight to all....even you Wigan knight.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Always found out, history is as far back as suites. thats it for me goodnight to all....even you Wigan knight.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Always found out, history is as far back as suites. thats it for me goodnight to all....even you Wigan knight.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"The last one PM me and tell me why?
It's getting beyond a joke now. There are hardly any threads that don't have at least one post from a non Wigan fan.
From the ironic "You're not famous anymore" (so I will prove my point by posting on YOUR board) , the patronising "The trouble with Wigan player A is......." or the simply provocative "Person X is a muppet", they are taking over the forum.
A shame really as the idea of "RLfans" is not a bad one, quite interesting to see other fans views on other boards, the reality though is that it no longer is a viable option for people who would just like to talk about their club and not have to wade through the anti-Wigan rubbish that infests every thread.'"
BK - I sympathise. You and I and others have attempted to have a rational debate with people on the salary cap, but sensible pro-cap people seem to be extremely thin on the ground as far as this board is concerned. Instead we get nonsensical, bile filled anti-Wigan rants.
Even worse than this though has been a real trend recently on fairly uncontentious subjects of fans of other clubs simply posting nonsense in a deliberate attempt to derail threads or cause irritation - a very recent example being the imbecilic posts on the "Man of Steel" thread. Nothing in that thread deserved idiotic comments.
I know these boards are meant to be for all RL fans but things do appear to be getting a bit out of hand recently on this board, particularly with the moronic posts clogging up threads. I'm not sure what the answer is but from some of the posts on this thread it clearly is a factor in dissuading some people from using this site more often, which is a real shame.
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| There is quite a simple reason why your board get's over ran with trolls and people having a pop, it's due to many of your fans starting threads berating other teams or hijacking threads on other boards by posting constant rubbish and going on about history so it's only natural for it too happen back on here. Take the Myler 300k thread as an example, people's biased views are clouding what's actually in front of them, you'd be very excited at the prsopect of him playing in the famour cherry and whitebut because he's going somewhere else he's no good?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"
It's getting beyond a joke now. There are hardly any threads that don't have at least one post from a non Wigan fan.
From the ironic "You're not famous anymore" (so I will prove my point by posting on YOUR board) , the patronising "The trouble with Wigan player A is......." or the simply provocative "Person X is a muppet", they are taking over the forum.
A shame really as the idea of "RLfans" is not a bad one, quite interesting to see other fans views on other boards, the reality though is that it no longer is a viable option for people who would just like to talk about their club and not have to wade through the anti-Wigan rubbish that infests every thread.'"
Maybe having people from other boards is a good thing as it can often give a different perspective on a debate. Particularly before and after a match when you have played a a particular team.
Of course their are trolls and the mods deal with them .
However, i belief that your issue goes somewhat deeper and more reflects your state of mind and attitude. It is quite clear from your post on the VT that your demoralisation about Wigan and RL in general, inability to accept the SC, franchising etc and the fact that you are going to be supporting RU in 10 years ( your words not mine) is the real caus eof your disillusionment.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Maybe having people from other boards is a good thing as it can often give a different perspective on a debate. Particularly before and after a match when you have played a a particular team.
Of course their are trolls and the mods deal with them .
However, i belief that your issue goes somewhat deeper and more reflects your state of mind and attitude. It is quite clear from your post on the VT that your demoralisation about Wigan and RL in general, inability to accept the SC, franchising etc and the fact that you are going to be supporting RU in 10 years ( your words not mine) is the real caus eof your disillusionment.'"
I love the amateur psychology. BK, it seems that the SC is rather like a death in the family, you need to "accept" it or you will continue to suffer from psychological trauma. Apparently.
If I were to engage in some amatueur psychology I'd say that you Durham Giant were the one "in denial" if you are unable to accept that there are some very serious problems with the structure and management of RL in this country.
But this is a bit of a sideshow, albeit an amusing one. The issue is not with BK but with moronic visitors to this board.
No one is saying that fans of other clubs should not post on this board, but BK is right to highlight a growing trend of fans of other clubs posting nonsense on this board.
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| Quote ="Cubby"There is quite a simple reason why your board get's over ran with trolls and people having a pop, it's due to many of your fans starting threads berating other teams or hijacking threads on other boards by posting constant rubbish and going on about history so it's only natural for it too happen back on here. Take the Myler 300k thread as an example, people's biased views are clouding what's actually in front of them, you'd be very excited at the prsopect of him playing in the famour cherry and whitebut because he's going somewhere else he's no good?'"
Spin it how you will. 300K for Myler is ludicrous. His agent must be laughing his stones off.
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