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| He may walk before the season is finished
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"icon_eek.gif See what I mean Rogues
RHJ you misunderstood my post. If you analyse both games. Yes, the score differed but in the cold light of day we were well beaten in both matches. Last season, leeds bombed plenty of tries, we defended heroically especially Calderwood but we hardly thretened and for long periods of the second half we could not get out of our own half.
I bleed Cherry and White but I do not wear glasses. When we were good and this may sound arrogant I knew if we turned up and played anywhere near our best we would win. The bigger the match the more I was sure. That is IMO how you measure whether you are the best team in any competition. I will not say how I view Wigan 2009.
People need to relax. RHJ you posted wearing your Mr Angry Platform Boots. Take them off.'"
But do you wear a truss ?
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"He may walk before the season is finished
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Why?
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"But do you wear a truss ?
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You have lost me. The only truss I know is architectural/building. Sorry
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| Quote ="AJ"Why?'"
Just an inkling I have.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"Just an inkling I have.'"
Based on?
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"How can you say we didnt? We had just destroyed Catalan in France whilst Leeds had looked poor against Saints. There was no reason we could not of beaten Leeds.
Jeez,some people are beaten before a game is started. I really hope the players dont think like you guys otherwise we might as well give up now!'"
Because it's always going to be the one game to far imo. Our performance on the night proved it, we were against the ropes at most points during that game and only survived not having a much larger score line by the skin of our teeth, some good defending and a dubious VR call against Peacock.
When the playoffs come round you can always hope & believe that we can take that next step but when you look at it with hindsight you can see in the past two semi’s we just didn’t have anything left in the tank.
Don’t forget also it was a must win game for Leeds and there top players will bring there best performances 2. This doesn’t always happen in the weekly rounds and is a massive factor
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"You have lost me. The only truss I know is architectural/building. Sorry'"
Buy a dictionary !!
By the way, agree with you re-Noble, I believe the players are not happy with some of the tactics, especially the defence.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"Just an inkling I have.'"
I think this too.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"He may walk before the season is finished
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I do not think Noble will ever walk, he seems too single minded. He is a survivor and very good at playing the game in my opinion regards survival, i do not think it was a coincidence the Noble to Les Cats story came out at the time it did last year, almost forcing IL's hand to offer him an extension.
I think his short term and maybe long term career will be ruined if he walks from Wigan with us playing so poorly for the last 2 years, and for that reason i think he will battle to the bitter end in the hope he turns it round.
Shame he cannot employ such intelligent tactics on the field.
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| Quote ="jonh"I do not think Noble will ever walk, he seems too single minded. He is a survivor and very good at playing the game in my opinion regards survival, i do not think it was a coincidence the Noble to Les Cats story came out at the time it did last year, almost forcing IL's hand to offer him an extension.
I think his short term and maybe long term career will be ruined if he walks from Wigan with us playing so poorly for the last 2 years, and for that reason i think he will battle to the bitter end in the hope he turns it round.
Shame he cannot employ such intelligent tactics on the field.'"
I think your spot on there....sadly
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"He may walk before the season is finished
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I think the decision may be taken out of his hands.
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| Quote ="Pemps"I think the decision may be taken out of his hands.'"
Are we to start taking bets?
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"Are we to start taking bets?'"
Some people are.
Personally, I'll give him 5 games
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| Quote ="Pemps"Some people are.
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If we lose on Friday then his job will certainly be under the microscope.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Some people are.
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here we go then, any more offers?
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| Quote ="Pemps"Some people are.
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Well if IL was to put the boot in it'd mean he'd have to fund Nobby's departure. Knowing a) IL's desire to run the club as a business and therefore not fund it out of his chequebook and b) Many Wigan fan's displeasure at Nobby: Whip round at the next home game?!
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| Quote ="Pemps"Some people are.
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5's a good number.I'll go with that
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| The next few performances are key i think he can get away with losing if we perform to a reasonable standard.
I appreciate i will get slated for this but i hope the next 3 or 4 games we do under perform and get snotted so that IL's hand is forced.
I was all for giving Noble a go this year, but the indication is nothing has changed.
I did have to smile on Sunday at 2 attempted moves that were put on when the ball was spread from the right to the left, they were the slowest, most laboured "moves" i have ever seenwith the people involved not knowing where the hell they were meant to run or who to draw.
Enough is enough in my opinion.
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| why wont brian noble play some of the youngsters such as ainscough farrell etc ?
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| Quote ="humpty_dumpty"why wont brian noble play some of the youngsters such as ainscough farrell etc ?'"
Because you've been put back together again.
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| Quote ="WigansForeignLegion"Well if IL was to put the boot in it'd mean he'd have to fund Nobby's departure. Knowing a) IL's desire to run the club as a business and therefore not fund it out of his chequebook and b) Many Wigan fan's displeasure at Nobby: Whip round at the next home game?!'"
Given Noble is out of contract at the end of the season the longer he stays in 2009 the cheaper it gets to fire him as IL would have less of this years wages still left to pay.
So here is a prediction.
IL won't fire him until at least half way through the season regardless of results assuming we play badly.
Then with not long of the season left IL will act. It will look like he has done what the fans have asked and got rid of an under performing coach so his standing with the fans goes up and Nobby takes the blame.
In reality all he will have done is wait until it's cheap enough to fire him!
Cynical me?
Of course a miracle could happen and Sunday was a mere blip and we go one to win the win the CC or the GF having blooded several youngsters along the way. Now where is that emoticon of a flying pig?
Dave
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"I agree with Nobby. Cut out all this passing that way the fools on the pitch cant drop it! Get the opposition into a forward orientated arm wrestle.'"
We dropped the ball because we didn't pass it.
The opposition knew who was going to take it up and met him with a gang tackle whose impact made us lose the ball.
I only remember us losing the ball in the tackle.
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| Quote ="Salty"We dropped the ball because we didn't pass it.
The opposition knew who was going to take it up and met him with a gang tackle whose impact made us lose the ball.
I only remember us losing the ball in the tackle.'"
I sometimes what some posters are sniffing?! You are bang on the money, we did not drop ball by not being able to catch we generally lose the ball in contact, due to garbage technique, something that could and should have been sorted by the coach and also because the defence knows exactly who is getting the ball and is able to pressure them/fully comitt to the tackle as there is nobody else running a support/dummy line!
As for the arm wrestle we always engage them in this RHJ and 9 times out of 10 we lose that arm wrestle and that is the problem Noble does not know anyother way to play than this.
RHJ I would suggest the next step for us in your opinion would be to have 5 scoots and a kick as that is the only simpler game plan than we are employing at the minute.
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