I agree about Clubb, he’s just ambling in at a jog at best,so easy for a man of his size to take down, shame Hamlin or Isa don’t have his frame.

Hicks is the video referee...

That said, he's past it anyway, but Westwood should never play a game of RL again.

That's assault and Escare should press charges.

He looks slower than a 35 year old Terry O’Connor playing for Widnes.

Carrying about 500 kg of strapping on his knees can’t be helping though.

I’m not the type to scape goat players however I think he’s been the biggest passenger in the entire squad this season.

It’s as you say. He just looks incapable of moving around the park.

Our fault for being very light in the propping department though. He should not be in the match day squad at all.

Well I think that was a big step forward when compared to recent weeks. We looked far better with Leuluai at 9. Williams had a much better game and Sammut was good. Hardaker was excellent all game.
We were beaten by a better side but there was improvement and we have a lot more of it in us. We move on.

Our front row is championship standard, Flower is the best of a bad bunch (our current leading try scorer, how bad iis that), Clubb is ineffective every game and Tautai needs cant stay on the field but when he does he’s giving daft penalties and knock-one away for fun.

Can’t disagree with any of that. Especially the comments on Tommy and Zak.

Promising signs and need to carry momentum

Who knows? Perhaps he was evening it out from the missed shoulder charge on Austin? We all know Thaler is 3!

Leuluai at hooker and Hardaker were the two main positives. I thought Sammut was pretty anonymous though, bar a few decent kicks.

Flower has been superb this season in all facets of his game. Missed him tonight.

Sammut was a huge improvement on Powell, with Tommy at 9 and Shorrocks off the bench we looked much better.

A kicking game at last...praise the Lord.

Really? I would say he’s been ‘solid’.....ie what you would expect from a prop forward as standard. I suppose compared to the rest you could class him as superb.

Bullock and Hamkin can't be immune from criticism either tonight - Bullock's defensive effort their second try was appalling and Hamlin gave up possession far too often.

It wasn’t missed?

He got put on report.

One thing that was missed was Westwood pushing the knee into TL’s throat, pinning him on the ground and weirdly receiving a pen for tommy not clearing the ruck.

That was a head scratcher

Not that I’m trying to go tit for tat

I think that is harsh on Flower and if Bullock can increase his fitness and minutes will be a good asset for us.

No, because it would likely end up going to golden point! Your lot dished plenty out as well, and always have done. I didn’t mean the shoulder was missed, but that he should’ve rightly gone for it. But instead whoever you play next week will likely get the benefit if he’s banned.

Hamlin needs to sort his attitude for my money. Has potential but drops far to much ball and spends the whole game winging at the red and flapping his arms around trying to milk decisions. Annoying...

Bullock ran well tonight but agree. Poor in defence but it mostly looked like poor positioning. Benefit of the doubt for me as he has massive potential I think.

Great work rate too for a big unit.

That call on the Isa drop out incident was appauling. 13-11 with a penalty under the sticks and we would have had a great chance to win it.

Despite being second best all game.


Thaler gave us nothing 12-4 penalty count and at least two of ours we’re on a tackle one.

The “one on one steal” was shocking too. Rules say if more than one player effect a tackle and all but one drop off, it’s still a steal.

Williams was e again he only wakes up with 15 minutes to go

thought you looked proper ordinary tonight. resorted to some pretty shoddy tactics..no surprise there. The shoulder charge on Austin nearly brought you back into it...thankfully we managed to get through with 11 men and staying in 3rd gear. Westwood is a liability. Enjoy your relegation fight with Leeds and Huddersfield.

I’m not sure we watched the same game.

I think Wire always had the measure hence the drop goal... but it looked a huge step up from Wigan this season. That intensity maintained will keep Wigan up but I think top 5 is gone.

I'm finding it hard to be as positive as some, but I guess that's got a lot to do with the base you start from. More energy, yes, and some signs of a better kicking game from Sammut, although one very good tackle didn't make up for several other defensive errors. But my worry is, at no point did I feel like Wigan were going to win that game. Defensively weaker, seemingly unable to prevent offloads despite plenty in the tackle. If this was apparently a step up, we need to step up further if we want to beat Salford.

I would agree with your summary. The forwards need to do their job. Shorrocks in my view deserves a run in the team, he is a very talented guy who has been unlucky with injuries. What I cant understand is Lam's defensive strategy, the Aussies don't defend like we do, this can be evidenced by watching the first two NRL games this year.

He was made to look rubbish again tonight by the opposition halves he couldn't even get the better of a back row forward against London