I don't think he's trying to enforce. It's stupid lazy lying on penalties and he was penalised for dissent after knocking on. That is not captain material.

Now a Bowen feck up and Cas score again. 30-8, an actual hammering.

An "Enforcer" should be going round smashing people not giving penalties away for laying on. Although I wasn't in the room when Wane briefed him, I'm will to bet a pound to a penny that Wane hasn't asked him to hold players down.

We won't change coach mid-season but our away record, discipline and overall team structure is way below expectations. I'd personally get shut but it won't happen.

Cas kick, Wigan feck up, Cas try.

Again.

And he ain't big enough to smash people so at looks stupid all around..

Not even a shock anymore, thats how bad we've become.

From Championship contenders to also-rans in less than six months!

Last week, I commented whether IL's 'do it on the cheap' would cost, tonight I think we're getting the answers!

Conceding 40 points to a team that hasn't won yet this year, and last week lost to a Saints team that got battered by Souths 5 days prior.

Feel sorry for the fans that have made the journey across.

Awful result and performance but some people are going OTT here,we've started seasons off poorly in the past and got it together,I think people calling for wanes head are getting well ahead of theirselves

Did he do his press-ups?.

To think I almost went tonight but had to work late!

Last year we only won 1 of our first 4 games but we lost to a last minute try against Cas rather than receiving a 40-point fisting.

Sorry, 1 out of 3 last year - counted the WCC by mistake.

Wane should be Youth coach.. he is well out of his depth at first team level, and now MM has gone he is exposed.

Listening on Wish (and watching Saints with the volume down), this is deeply depressing.

Was so looking forward to the trip to Wigan for the derby, but now...

Will we win any of our next 4 games?

Hull
Leeds
Wakefield
Saints

Hull have sack loads of injuries

1 out 4 if were lucky..how the mighty have fallen..

True, we will probs beat Hull but only because they are even worse than us.

You are Brian Noble and I claim my five pounds

Wane is Noble but has claimed a lot more than five squid...a new three year deal indeed..oh dear..looks like the dark years have returned..

Indeed Matty B, the 'middle eight' might be on the horizon !!!!!
Joking aside....The club have put a lot of faith in some 'very talented' youngsters, but any side 'expecting' to be in the top 4, sure need an 'experienced/quality' No. 6 (at the very least) !!

Agree. At the beginning of the season I made a comment that we would miss Blake Green this season and was laughed off by a few mates.

I still stand by that. Not replacing him like for like is costly.

Our discipline (yet again) lets us down. Eagerly awaiting SW's comments.

'Dumb rugby'? 'Errors'? But will he mention penalties against killing us?

From various twitters...

"This is the worst day I've ever had in my coaching career. I could tell our defence wasn't strong enough"
"We were outplayed in every department. Completions poor, we didn't win first contact, the changes didn't work"
"I'm responsible for that, I'm embarrassed for the all the fans who came over and watched us, we were awful"
"Cas wanted it more", says Wigan boss Wane. "They ran harder and tackled harder. I knew they were a good side"

Mention errors, mention penalties, mention dumb play. Tonight none were an issue because for the first time in 6 years the 'effort' word reared it's head.

Wiganers will always put up with a side that loses whilst busting a gut but they won't put up with a side that rolls over and gives up before a games even started.

Apologist, he is failing as a coach and his players have lost faith in his coaching...quite clearly. last years Grand Finalists to this result today

Come off it. Everyone has a rough patch and the bloke has worked miracles with a squad that's torn apart year on year.

He will turn this around, I'm convinced! And he will again defy the odds which he has done in the past because I'm not having it that he's being given a squad that is costing the full salary cap value.