Agent millwards face used to b good when we were beating them

The old disbelieving Goldfish gob!

Still frightens me to this day this photo:

remember a game when we were beating em badly at ht he put a top over the dressing room sky camera

I think that's a bit narrow. Royce is a pretty honest bloke and knows that we just got beat tonight. What do you expect - somersaults?

I think he's just making the point that many others have made - at times your tactics are 'questionable'. That don't mean that, like all other 'honest' Saints fans that we weren't beaten all hands up tonight. I don't think you'll find him complaining.

I think you will find his players are gonna get it this week though cos I know from one of them directly that there was a 'conversation' after the game.

Well done - no arguments from me.

No Dad! Make it stop!!

How so?

I thought saints, on average ,were longer in the tackle than us tonight and not often square at the play the ball.

From the team that has made forward passes an art form that's a bit rich. The famous Saints forward pass try !

Wigan were definitely in the tackle longer than Saints but there was nothing illegal in what they were doing, purely because they were getting numbers into the tackle. It is a tactic they have used very successfully since Maguire came in and the most disappointing thing as a Saints fan is that we don't try and use similar tactics to control the ruck ourselves.

There is an expected bitter tone from Simmons. However I believe he's a good coach. Kept a injury ridden saints in the title race, credit where credits due.

That is not the real transcript to be fair. He was very dejected in the press conference, but he would be after that. He did mention about us slowing it down but also conceded we did it better than them. He wasn't complaing about us slowing the play down he was more peed off that we did it better than them.

Its only natural.

His "in form" team were blown of the park tonight.

It is only right he should attach himself to some sort of magic gimmick that Wigan use to beat teams.

His players let him down, end of

Dont know where you get "in form" from. We were pretty dreadful against bradford last week, and have not won many league matches in the last couple of months !

Stop putting yourselves down mate......youve only got Warrington away next week

How many high shots did Tuson get off Wilkin without a penalty being given?

Also, after re watching the match (several times

). I notice that 9/10 tackles made upon Graham. He puts his head in the defenders legs and shouts or appeals to the ref for a penalty. If he put as much energy into running as he did shouting he'd be a better player.

maybe his 'head' is elsewhere

Not putting ourselves down. Just stating quite an obvious fact when you look at our results and performances.

Warrington are a very good team but the question still remains whether they have that killer instinct to grind out results week in and week out. They have had some terrible results at home this season, while at the same time playing some outstanding stuff against the bigger teams.

Much as it pains me to say it, wigan are definitely the benchmark, and if they play to the level they played last night, they are still very much the team to beat this season.

Was only joking mate, I for one, hope you beat Warrington next week, I have respect for St Helens as a club but I think I speak for a lot of Wigan fans when I say there is genuine hatred between us and Wire now. You'll be there at the end of the season when everyone is fit for you, still more to come from Saints this season me thinks and I wont be writing them off just yet.

I follow him on twitter. He's funny and quite laid back. I quite like him. He doesn't come across to me as bitter tbh

Apart from people in Warrington, who actually cares about them? They are one of those nothing clubs that every league has, no matter what the sport is

I dont think thats really him on twitter

Awwww don't shatter my dreams lol

I've got time for simmons. I thought he would really struggle this year but he's changed the way saints play and made them hard to beat even with lots of kids in the team which is no mean feat. And he seems a decent bloke.