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| Well to be honest Tomkins didn't have control of the ball (or anything else) for his try!
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| Quote ="gzus"Well to be honest Tomkins didn't have control of the ball (or anything else) for his try!'"
He clearly did get downward pressure.
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| Quote ="gzus"Well to be honest Tomkins didn't have control of the ball (or anything else) for his try!'"
You don't need to be in control. At least know the rules first.
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| Quote ="gzus"Well to be honest Tomkins didn't have control of the ball (or anything else) for his try!'"
He didn't knock-on either.
Have you considered that fairly significant difference?
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| I'm aware of this otherwise I would have said it was not a try
The OP mentioned Ah Van lost control and I just merely highlighted that so did Tomkins.
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| Quote ="Cronus"What the hell?
He grounded it short with his right hand, lost control and rolled it onto the line with left. Speechless.
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Video Ref...Correct decision. Stop beefing...you won.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"Video Ref...Correct decision. Stop beefing...you won.'"
The result has no relevance to that video ref decision, which was 100% incorrect. If you genuinely believe otherwise and are not just acting the pillock, then you're an idiot. (Not much a choice for you, I admit, but it's all you've got).
It isn't beefing to point out that he knocked on. Blatantly. It wasn't a try. End of.
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| It was a definate try. No problems with it at all.
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| It was a try,he put it down with one hand over the line,then the other hand landed on it.Deffo try.Blantantly it was a try. End of.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"The result has no relevance to that video ref decision, which was 100% incorrect. If you genuinely believe otherwise and are not just acting the pillock, then you're an idiot. (Not much a choice for you, I admit, but it's all you've got).
It isn't beefing to point out that he knocked on. Blatantly. It wasn't a try. End of.'"
At what point did he knock on? Ill give you a clue....he didn't, try to explain anyway, I fancy a laugh.
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| Quote ="brook40"It wasn't a try, he put it down with one hand short of the line, lost control of the ball, then the other hand rolled it onto the line. Deffo not a try. Blatantly not a try. Only a blind idiot would think otherwise. End of.'"
Edited for accuracy.
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| Are you knocking?
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| Quote ="Cronus"What the hell?
He grounded it short with his right hand, lost control and rolled it onto the line with left. Speechless.
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I only seen it once and on that look thought it was a try, may think different if i watched it again.
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| It was a try,he got downward pressure on it,all the comentators agreed on it and thats a rareity in itself.It was replayed lots of times and at no point did it look like is wasnt a try
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| Try for me. No qualms
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| So when he released the ball to the floor with his right hand, and then touched it down with his left - that doesn't count as a knock-on?
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| He got downward pressure on the ball with his right hand and thats why the try was awarded
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| You scored a try from a blatant forward pass.
It happens.
You won.
Get over it.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"You scored a try from a blatant forward pass.'"
According to the few dozen who turned up, almost every pass Wigan threw was "FFOOOORWAAAARDD".
Perhaps you were one of them.
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| Quote ="brook40"He got downward pressure on the ball with his right hand and thats why the try was awarded'"
At the very least it was a 50-50 call. I've seen video refs take ages agonising over far more clear-cut 'tries' than that one.
But it's pointless arguing on.
Incompetent refereeing - either on the field or off it - is hardly a new thing in the game. Time to accept victory and look to next week.
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| i watched it on big screen and said NO TRY..GROUNDED SHORT................then i looked a the clock and said give em the try anyway..they'll barely have time to kick the goal before full time..................i was jokin.and gobsmacked when they gave a try
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| Quote ="Cronus"According to the few dozen who turned up, almost every pass Wigan threw was "FFOOOORWAAAARDD".
Perhaps you were one of them.'"
Always had you down as sensible.
Called that one wrong, seemingly.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"You scored a try from a blatant forward pass.
It happens.
You won.
Get over it.'"
We will thanks.
Good luck avoiding the bottom 2 of the league.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Always had you down as sensible.
Called that one wrong, seemingly.'"
Only a bit of banter Adey!
There were a huge number of calls for forward today though - admittedly a lot were missed (for both sides), but I don't recall the Odsal crowd being so animated in that manner.
FWIW, I thought Bradford came out much more fired up than we did - perhaps we thought it would be a stroll - your fast defence dominated long periods of play in the 1st half and without the Raynor sending off the 2nd could have been very different.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"So when he released the ball to the floor with his right hand, and then touched it down with his left - that doesn't count as a knock-on?'"
Sadly the ruling these days is 'downwards pressure'. Nothing about control.
He lost the ball with his right hand, but managed to apply 'downwards pressure' before knocking on. It's not a try in my book, but sadly it is according to the rules.
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