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| Quote ="NickyKiss"When Richards is back we need to pick players in our pivotal positions and role with them for at least 5 or 6 games.
I'd personally go-
1-Roberts
6-S Tomkins
7-Deacon/Finch
9-Leuluai
13-Lockers
bench-McIlorum
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I'd go the same.
Regardless of how he dealt with Brough's high balls, he had a good game against Huddersfield ball in hand.
Last night he didn't get the opportunity to get involved as much as what would have benefited us.
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| Quote ="ABP'"I'd go the same.
Regardless of how he dealt with Brough's high balls, he had a good game against Huddersfield ball in hand.
Last night he didn't get the opportunity to get involved as much as what would have benefited us.'"
It's just the prospect of finding the Amos Roberts of early 2010 that makes me want to give him a shot back in the position. If we can get him in that form again then this side could be simply awesome in attack with Sam at 6 and Finch or Deacon pulling the strings.
It's a mouthwatering prospect but without a run of games in the side he'll never get that form back.
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| Quote ="ABP'"I'd go the same.
Regardless of how he dealt with Brough's high balls, he had a good game against Huddersfield ball in hand.
Last night he didn't get the opportunity to get involved as much as what would have benefited us.'"
Agreed.
Play him at FB next week, let him attack the line properly and get sam back to 6.
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| If Richards is back I would go
1. S. Tomkins
5. Pat
6. Deacon
7. Finch
9. Tommy
13. Lockers
Roberts doesn't look interested IMO, it doesn't look like he has gained his confidence since his injury.
I don't know about anyone else, but 3 & 4 concern me more, carmont will look better next to Pat as I feel he is getting drawn all over being next to Goulding, Charnely & Roberts. I think the right centre needs addressing.
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| the last 15. Mins proved without any doubt sam needs to play at 6. Teams can stop him at 1 in at first receiver he can use his skills to open defenses he tore leeds to bits at first receiver.
centre is an issue for me, one that needs resolving quickly, and not with joel.
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| Quote ="jonh"the last 15. Mins proved without any doubt sam needs to play at 6. Teams can stop him at 1 in at first receiver he can use his skills to open defenses he tore leeds to bits at first receiver.
centre is an issue for me, one that needs resolving quickly, and not with joel.'"
Agreed about Sam - 6 always (as long as someone tells him to lets others have a go with the ball - ie pass the thing sometimes), Joel can cover centre but is never a starting centre, that is a problem area.
Oh and Pat to FB - we need to be stronger defensively there.
And for me the one thing the last couple of games have shown is how good a player Paul Deacon is - how much have we missed him organising things.
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| Quote ="exiled Warrior"Agreed about Sam - 6 always (as long as someone tells him to lets others have a go with the ball - ie pass the thing sometimes), Joel can cover centre but is never a starting centre, that is a problem area.
Oh and Pat to FB - we need to be stronger defensively there.
And for me the one thing the last couple of games have shown is how good a player Paul Deacon is - how much have we missed him organising things.'"
I never thought I would be saying this but I think we miss Riddell @ 9, calming things down and organising from the play the ball.
I like sam at 1 coming up late and breaking the line, like slatter does like he did all last year we just dont look as slick with ball in hand this year.
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| Quote ="jonh"
centre is an issue for me, one that needs resolving quickly, and not with joel.'"
Not sure on that. I thought he got better as the night went on and he'll always cause all sorts of problems in the position. Granted his defence needs work but that should come with experience.
If Maguire won't give Charnley a shot there then he's without doubt our best option at the minute.
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| the number of different players in different - and incorrect - positions this year has been startling!
we need to start settling down and forming parnerships...
starting with Sam & Finch at HB.
Finch WILL be quality once he is used to the game plan AND we have players runnning correct lines off him
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| Hi i am new to the site, but i would like to predict where the player's will go.
Sam Tomkins Should go back to number 6.
Deacon at 7.
Tommy At 9 With Mac Coming on From The Bench.
Finch And Mac on the bench.
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| Quote ="Warrior*Girl91"Hi i am new to the site, but i would like to predict where the player's will go.
Sam Tomkins Should go back to number 6.
Deacon at 7.
Tommy At 9 With Mac Coming on From The Bench.
Finch And Mac on the bench.'"
Agree with all that bar Finch 'and' Mickey Mac on the bench. That would be a waste of a bench spot as we only need the one on there.
It's between Deacon and Finch for the 7 shirt for me and the rest should pick itself.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Agree with all that bar Finch 'and' Mickey Mac on the bench. That would be a waste of a bench spot as we only need the one on there.
It's between Deacon and Finch for the 7 shirt for me and the rest should pick itself.'"
Yes agree i was thinking that when i read it again lol.
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| Start a thread about out of position players and suggest Richards at full back? Is that meant to be ironic?
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Finch WILL be quality once he is used to the game plan AND we have players runnning correct lines off him'"
hope your right....but at the moment hes not impressing anyone.
every time he got the ball in the last 2 games hes looked average...........greg florimo comes to mind when i watch him
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"hope your right....but at the moment hes not impressing anyone.
every time he got the ball in the last 2 games hes looked average...........greg florimo comes to mind when i watch him'"
Was the pass out wide to Sam average when we made the break?
After re watching it last night, Finch had a better game than I thought at the time. He certainly knows how to hit a player to, for me it was his runners that got certain things wrong on a couple of occasions. I think he'll prove to be a very good signing sooner rather than later.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Was the pass out wide to Sam average when we made the break?
After re watching it last night, Finch had a better game than I thought at the time. He certainly knows how to hit a player to, for me it was his runners that got certain things wrong on a couple of occasions. I think he'll prove to be a very good signing sooner rather than later.'"
I agree especially the highlighted bit.
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| We dont need Richards at fullback, we just need to drop back every so often in anticipation of the bomb because lets be honest he's the only one who can deal with them! He needs to be on the wing where he is the strongest and just drop back every now and then to deal with the high stuff - like he did last year when he won Man of Steel.
for me at full strength this year we would be:
1. Roberts
2. Goulding
3. Charnley
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. Sam
7. Finch
8. Prescott
9. Leuluai
10. Fielden
11. Farrell
12. Hoffman
13. O'Loughlin
14. McIlorum/Deacon
15. Lima
16. Mossop
17. Hock/Hansen/Tuson
I'd hate to be the one who picks out who's missing in the forwards when Fielden and Hock are back because they are all in fine form.
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| Leuluai was very good at 9. I am a fan of him playing there.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"We dont need Richards at fullback, we just need to drop back every so often in anticipation of the bomb because lets be honest he's the only one who can deal with them! He needs to be on the wing where he is the strongest and just drop back every now and then to deal with the high stuff - like he did last year when he won Man of Steel.
for me at full strength this year we would be:
1. Roberts
2. Goulding
3. Charnley
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. Sam
7. Finch
8. Prescott
9. Leuluai
10. Fielden
11. Farrell
12. Hoffman
13. O'Loughlin
14. McIlorum/Deacon
15. Lima
16. Mossop
17. Hock/Hansen/Tuson
I'd hate to be the one who picks out who's missing in the forwards when Fielden and Hock are back because they are all in fine form.'"
No Coley?
I'd have Fielden and Coley starting then Mossop, Prescott and Lima battling for 2 bench places.
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| 1.Roberts
2.Goulding
3.Carmont
4.Charnley
5.Richards
6.Sam
And were missing Gleesons defensive work badly IMO
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| Quote ="finchy17"No Coley?
I'd have Fielden and Coley starting then Mossop, Prescott and Lima battling for 2 bench places.'"
I'd have Coley starting with Fielden coming off the bench. The team is better when one of them is on the pitch all the time.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Was the pass out wide to Sam average when we made the break?
After re watching it last night, Finch had a better game than I thought at the time. He certainly knows how to hit a player to, for me it was his runners that got certain things wrong on a couple of occasions. I think he'll prove to be a very good signing sooner rather than later.'"
I think he'll come good, too, but he's clearly not up to the pace of the game yet. Too often caught in possession, or tackled just as he passes. Too many "hospital" passes. Even his kicking game, so far, hasn't impressed. I reckon another couple of games should do it, though.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Leuluai was very good at 9. I am a fan of him playing there.'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Not sure on that. I thought he got better as the night went on and he'll always cause all sorts of problems in the position. Granted his defence needs work but that should come with experience.
If Maguire won't give Charnley a shot there then he's without doubt our best option at the minute.'"
I agree NK. I think a few will be eating their words re: Joel at centre once he has had a run of games in the position. He looked a real handful at times last night. A centre out of the Australian mold in fact, not unlike Senior in his earlier days. I've wanted the British game to recognise the need for big, fast, blockbusting centres for some time. We always seem to convert them to 2nd rowers in this country for some reason. Give Joel some time to acclimatise to that position and we'll be quids in! He has all the attributes...
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| the team should really pick itself
1. Roberts
2. Goulding
3. Joel
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. Sam
7. Finch
8. Prescott
9. Leuluai
10. Coley
11. Farrell
12. Hoffman
13. O'Loughlin
14. Mossop
15. Lima
16. Hansen
17. McIllorum
18. Deacon
19. Tuson
with charnley and marsh in reserve. When fielden and hock are fit and back, for me lima and hansen drop out on current form but all to play for!
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