I think the MOS method is a bit of a disgrace and that looks like its now filtered into the dream team (with the assumption its been highest points scorers for each position).

However, I don't really get worked up about who gets coach of the year. If Peet wins the Grand Final and doesn't get coach of they year, do you think he really cares?

Who will be the most satisified - Peet or Peters?

Who would be the most in demand and recognised coach - Peet or Peters?

Wigan squad for the Academy Grand Final. https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2024/09/ ... l-preview/

Wigan squad for the Academy Grand Final. https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2024/09/ ... l-preview/

Shame it's not live on Wigan TV. Hopefully we can get the win after the shambles of last year.

It should be a cracking game between two very good teams.

How thick are Wire fans? Singing “you’re ” to Saints when you’re winning by 6 points with 10 mins still left

Not as thick as Johnny Lomax running it on the last in his own 30

"Saints are falling apart again" was a particular highlight

That was an old, creaking team on life support, showing one last sign of life before they go off to oblivion.

Really enjoyed that, Saints fans must be wondering where that performance has been hiding for the last four months, credit to Wire for not panicking when they were two scores behind

Fair play to Saints, they had a dig but they're not the team they were.

Wellens looks like a rabbit in the headlights every time hes interviewed.

Great game to watch. Obviously, the Wigan in my blood wanted Saints to lose but when it got to golden point i was quite contented with us maybe playing them after such an effort but when Williams kicked the drop goal, the Wigan in me came surging to the surface and i couldn't help but start cheering and shouting 'F*ck off Saints' at the telly.

Firstly, wow what a game! I wish somebody with vision and financial backing could get a grip on the sport in this country because I'm a sports fanatic and there is nothing better than that!

As for Saints, you have to give them credit. Tonight is why I could never write them off. The play offs are a new comp and they have so much know how. They never get battered in a play off game and you have to nail down the coffin firmly. They're not the side they were quite clearly. Guys like Walmsley and Lomax look close to being done but they nearly squeezed through. I think Leigh likely give us a tougher game next week tbh because of what that will have taken out of Saints.

I think that's true. We'd have been cooked next week if we'd have gone through I think. We looked completely finished towards the end of that game, couldn't believe we managed to get over for the last try. Unfortunately, that GP period was poorly managed with some poor play from players that were clearly out on their feet

great game!!,Saints are in the past tense now they need new blood etc.
St Helens in the past would have found a way to win,said it 2 years ago with the players getting older and more prone to injuries they would struggle,Wigan are the more superior team now,In the club,players and the set up.

I didnt see last night's game, as a neutral (of sorts) do you think tonight was reffed differently to the regular season? No yellows and I think only one high tackle seemed surprising.

I was at the game so it felt different during.

Well Liam Moore didn't seem to care about the ruck speed but thats the same every game he's in charge of.

I thought it was reffed really well and well done the players, zero histrionics, I can only recall one bog standard lazy high tackle from Walmsley, penalty sufficient, play on.

Good exciting game but the quality wasn't the best. Error rate and number of missed tackles show that. Wire will need to be 3 levels above that to cause KR problems

There wasn't anything really of note tonight that would've been adjudicated differently in the weekly rounds but last night saw Lafai not even penalised for a challenge very similar to the one which Vaughan got a red card and 3 games for only a few weeks ago. Now I'm glad it seems like they may give more leeway but all the same, that causes confusion.

One thing that did make me chuckle last night was Amor laying in to Darnell Macintosh for staying down. He was on Comms when Welsby stayed down at Leigh last week and funnily enough, he didn't seem concerned with it then.

Saints got away with murder at times at the ruck it was that slow, but fair play to them if they can get away with it why not?

We did similar against Penrith in the WCC and Penrith didn’t adapt to it, just like last night Warrington didn’t adapt to that element of the game and how it was reffed on the night.

It's funny how people see things differently. Last night showed exactly why I've been saying all season that they weren't our main threat. Even with the majority of their players back and putting in the best performance of their season they still weren't good enough against the team that finished 3rd. Kudos to Saints for managing to put in a season's best performance when it mattered most but when that performance is yet another loss I think it says everything about where they currently are.

Saints were never our main threat in 2024 as they weren't in 2023. This "never write off the Saints" needs binning alongside "The Entertainers" tag. Neither are correct any more.

They'll be back. I have no doubt about that whatsoever. Whether that will be next season or not remains to be seen but there was never any doubt in my mind that it wasn't going to be this year and that proved to be spot on.

I agree, looking at that team sheet it was a strong one. Maybe they need to realise they aren't that great anymore, majority of their senior players are the wrong side of thirty and not getting any younger. Also I'm not sure any of their announced signings will change any of that.

Big few years for Saints management, will they come strong again quickly (history says they normally do) or will they go the other way like Leeds are doing with a decade in the wilderness. Both teams have a strong youth system in place (Saints arguably better than Leeds lately) and getting this right is paramount.

I think their backline is much improved going into 2025.

Forwards are very much in transition though and I’m not sure that issue can be resolved in one offseason.

But the way some people spoke going in to the play offs was as though they were going to be easy beats. It took a huge effort from Warrington to squeeze past them, in golden point. They're not the side they were, we all acknowledge that but they were always going to be extremely hard to beat in any play off tie. They've got to rebuild but I can't help respect them for being able to be extremely competitive, make play offs etc even at their worst. I'm happy to enjoy our success, while giving them that respect,which is world's away from what some of their fans could bring themselves to do during the 4 on the spin.

Exactly - it wasn't that people thought they would win it - just that they couldn't be written off in a three match play off series. Combine the experience of Saints with Warrington's history of screwing it up in the big games and it's no surprise it was close yesterday.