It's difficult for our props as both Thompson and Havard do a lot of minutes. It's set up for a Mago-style impact prop, but not really for someone who also needs long minutes to get into their game as you're waiting for Thompson/Havard to need resting or getting injured.

Good luck to Liam as noted by others a really good player on his day,anyway at least he has some winners medals in his cabinet before his move to Warrington.

Still has a job to do in 2025, let's hope he keeps full focus on his current team, maybe even win another trophy or two to add the ones already won.

Warrington likely offered more money and a place in the starting line up so fair play to Liam Byrne if he's made that choice. It didn't disappoint me to read the news. He's usually solid enough and maybe he's a touch underrated at times but he hasn't progressed as hoped. Maybe a change in environment will get more out of him. Be interesting to see if Harvie Hill ends up better than him. 50/50 on that one. Imagine Wigan's decision on whether or not to recruit a replacement will depend on Sam Eseh's progress.

[quote="MadDogg":3vq4jixb]Warrington likely offered more money and a place in the starting line up so fair play to Liam Byrne if he's made that choice. It didn't disappoint me to read the news. He's usually solid enough and maybe he's a touch underrated at times but he hasn't progressed as hoped. Maybe a change in environment will get more out of him. Be interesting to see if Harvie Hill ends up better than him. 50/50 on that one. Imagine Wigan's decision on whether or not to recruit a replacement will depend on Sam Eseh's progress.[/quote:3vq4jixb] Been told that Wire are chasing Sneyd.

[quote="Zig":kr067fmj]Been told that Wire are chasing Sneyd.[/quote:kr067fmj] I think that would make sense. They obviously signed the lad from London but I don't think he'll be a starter and may be moved between halfback and hooker and then Hayes is coming back from a serious injury. It's very early days for Hayes anyway. He started the season for them last year and I thought he did a solid enough job. The rave reviews on Sky seemed a bit OTT and maybe based on his stature, more than what he was actually producing and I would be worried if Wigan were going with such a young kid as first choice, especially on the back of that injury. Him being dipped in and out and acting as back up to Williams and Sneyd would be no bad thing IMO.

Apparently Hayes got a hamstring so seems the club may have decided to not take more risks.

[quote="rubber duckie":2la6ex4v]Apparently Hayes got a hamstring so seems the club may have decided to not take more risks.[/quote:2la6ex4v] That’s tough on the lad.

[quote="Zig":7gbjsm82]That’s tough on the lad.[/quote:7gbjsm82] It's really tough, as most people have two

[quote="Warrior Winger":3mr5ly5t]It's really tough, as most people have two [/quote:3mr5ly5t] Maybe he’s saving up for the other one. Once he’s got it he can play.

Matty Lees signed for next season?? https://www.wiganwarriorsfans.com/viewt ... 49#p555949

Matty Lees signed for next season?? https://www.wiganwarriorsfans.com/viewt ... 49#p555949

It would be worth it for the meltdown it would cause on Red Vee but I can't see it. I think we've set ourselves up in terms of props to be covered for a good while, without the need to bring anyone in. I think we'll see Byrne leave and Hill move up a spot and then guys like Eseh, McDermott and Makin will fill in behind.

[quote="NickyKiss":2v2k20jr]It would be worth it for the meltdown it would case on Red Vee but I can't see it. I think we've set ourselves up in terms of props to be covered for a good while, without the need to bring anyone in. I think we'll see Byrne leave and Hill move up a spot and then guys like Esh, McDermott and Makin will fill in behind.[/quote:2v2k20jr] i agree, unless the club know that another one of our props is moving on, although i think they are all contracted for next season at least. Byrne was the exception as he was out of contract at the end of the season

I don't understand it if it is true, he would command one hell of a salary and be potentially third/fourth choice

Looks like we are doing business early again, in and out which is very positive. Focus needs to be on a secondrow for 2026. Faz and Isa are well past their prime. Jury still out on Walters. Outside of Nsemba couple of youngsters starting to kick on but we can cope with losing Byrne with what we have already at the club.

[quote="Mark_P1973":ebu42xks]Matty Lees signed for next season?? https://www.wiganwarriorsfans.com/viewt ... 49#p555949[/quote:ebu42xks] Lee's has signed a new deal with Saints along with Knowles according to our friends over on redvee

[quote="Mark_P1973":ebu42xks]Matty Lees signed for next season?? https://www.wiganwarriorsfans.com/viewt ... 49#p555949[/quote:ebu42xks] Lee's has signed a new deal with Saints along with Knowles according to our friends over on redvee

[quote="NickyKiss":2penkyiw]It would be worth it for the meltdown it would cause on Red Vee but I can't see it. I think we've set ourselves up in terms of props to be covered for a good while, without the need to bring anyone in. I think we'll see Byrne leave and Hill move up a spot and then guys like Eseh, McDermott and Makin will fill in behind.[/quote:2penkyiw] I was told this earlier in the week but took it with a pinch of salt. Redvee is already in meltdown.

The things people post for attention….

[quote="The Yellow Giraffe":11hjhqxv]The things people post for attention….[/quote:11hjhqxv] If you are referring to my post then both parts hold.

[quote="Zig":1c4re11a]If you are referring to my post then both parts hold.[/quote:1c4re11a] Not at all. I’m referring the person on the other forum who started the rumour. He/she will soon look silly.

[quote="jonh":2lvuiz8a]Looks like we are doing business early again, in and out which is very positive. Focus needs to be on a secondrow for 2026. Faz and Isa are well past their prime. Jury still out on Walters. Outside of Nsemba couple of youngsters starting to kick on but we can cope with losing Byrne with what we have already at the club.[/quote:2lvuiz8a] Agree re priority must be on the secondrow and it must be someone with some good experience in terms of years and playing at a very good standard.

For me I think Faz has got 2 years left in him as a starter. Obviously not the player he was but still a work horse, fit as a fiddle and has the immeasurable asset of being our leader. Hoping for a massive year from Walters.

[quote="The Yellow Giraffe":3h1znmza]Not at all. I’m referring the person on the other forum who started the rumour. He/she will soon look silly.[/quote:3h1znmza] Fair enough, I apologise. Another person in the know is stating that Lees is going to Wire. I take it, by your comment, that you are confident Lees is extending his stay at Saints?

[quote="Zig":1n8tcerj]Fair enough, I apologise. Another person in the know is stating that Lees is going to Wire. I take it, by your comment, that you are confident Lees is extending his stay at Saints?[/quote:1n8tcerj] Yeah new deals for him and Knowles to be announced before the season starts.

[quote="The Yellow Giraffe":1tme533e]Yeah new deals for him and Knowles to be announced before the season starts.[/quote:1tme533e] Ok thanks. I assume that is where Matautia’s money has gone, together with resigning Delaney.