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| Give me....
Hall on a wing.
Atkins at centre.
Monaghan at hooker (prefer creativity to 40 tackles a game, the team should share the workload unlike saints)
Ben Westwood for the bench.
Puletua for prop.
Roby off the bench as hooker.
That is the only way you would improve this current team with super league players. I wouldn't want anyone else personally. Finch and Leuluai are a great partnership. Our pack has not been dominated all year and our outside backs are taking great advantage.
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| Quote ="TheSurgeon"The OP didn't ask who was the best ! he asked who would YOU swap !!!!!
again you come on here reading between the lines and replying to something that wasn't there.'"
Well surely if somebody was better, then you'd swap them. The two things are obviously very closely linked. So he may not have used the words "is anyone better than our players" but the insinuation is there that that is what he was asking.
You need to chill out and out your dummy back in.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Well surely [uif somebody was better, then you'd swap them.[/u The two things are obviously very closely linked. So he may not have used the words "is anyone better than our players" but the insinuation is there that that is what he was asking.
You need to chill out and out your dummy back in.'"
Not the case at all, see Harrison Hansen post on previous page.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Add Jeff Lima to that list, he's been superb all this season, making more metres than any other prop.'"
Too true, that's why I said 'for example'.
The one thing that I always notice about Lima is that he very, very rarely gets turtled. He always lands on his front when tackled and achieves a quick PTB.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Well surely if somebody was better, then you'd swap them. The two things are obviously very closely linked. So he may not have used the words "is anyone better than our players" but the insinuation is there that that is what he was asking.
You need to chill out and out your dummy back in.'"
Did you accuse someone of dummy spitting!!!!! PMSL
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Did you accuse someone of dummy spitting!!!!! PMSL'"
I sure did. Shouldn't there be a question mark after that though?
And can you please point out where I have "spat my dummy out?" Thanks.
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| Quote ="Nnibly_Warrior"Not the case at all, see Harrison Hansen post on previous page.'"
Fair enough mate, I completely understand what you mean.
However from the original post I took it as meaning what would be the best 17 you could name. I obviously misunderstood slightly.
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| The only problem with a post like this is we have seen our own guys for 15 games live so we have a good idea of how they are performing week in week out. We have only seen opposing players once unless we watch Sky so it is hard to say if we would want to swap anyone.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"The only problem with a post like this is we have seen our own guys for 15 games live so we have a good idea of how they are performing week in week out. We have only seen opposing players once unless we watch Sky so it is hard to say if we would want to swap anyone.'"
Good point. And Harrison Hansen is a good example of this. I am sure none of you would want to swap him for Soliola but I don't think you'd find a Saints fan that would do it the other way round. But if we had seen each other play every week then the opinions may vary slightly.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"The only problem with a post like this is we have seen our own guys for 15 games live so we have a good idea of how they are performing week in week out. We have only seen opposing players once unless we watch Sky so it is hard to say if we would want to swap anyone.'"
That's true. Just going off how opposition players have played against us, I can't think of many of theirs that have outplayed our equivalent player in that position, even in games we've lost. Brough in the Huddersfield game is about all - otherwise, even in our losses, it was more a case of our whole team underperforming rather than one player killing us.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Good point. And Harrison Hansen is a good example of this. I am sure none of you would want to swap him for Soliola but I don't think you'd find a Saints fan that would do it the other way round. But if we had seen each other play every week then the opinions may vary slightly.'"
Was just going to look at stats for them out of interest and noticed the SL site had changed - has the head to head stats function been removed? Real shame if so.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I sure did. Shouldn't there be a question mark after that though?
And can you please point out where I have "spat my dummy out?" Thanks.'"
It was rhetorical...
You just read the openers question your way. The OP was asking Wigans fan who they would swap, not necessarily who's best. You clearly decided the OP had asked the wrong question, and then went about explaining to all and sundry that they were wrong. Then you had the cheek to accuse people of dummy spitting!!!!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Was just going to look at stats for them out of interest and noticed the SL site had changed - has the head to head stats function been removed? Real shame if so.'"
I looked for that too... Shame if its gone....
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"It was rhetorical...
You just read the openers question your way. The OP was asking Wigans fan who they would swap, not necessarily who's best. You clearly decided the OP had asked the wrong question, and then went about explaining to all and sundry that they were wrong. Then you had the cheek to accuse people of dummy spitting!!!!'"
I misunderstood the opening post and have since acknowledged that. However the person who started the thread has also stated that perhaps the OP wasn't very clear.
Why you have chosen to pick up on everything I say and attempt to start an argument is anyones guess.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Was just going to look at stats for them out of interest and noticed the SL site had changed - has the head to head stats function been removed? Real shame if so.'"
I noticed that yesterday. The new stats section is awful.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I misunderstood the opening post and have since acknowledged that. However the person who started the thread has also stated that perhaps the OP wasn't very clear.
Why you have chosen to pick up on everything I say and attempt to start an argument is anyones guess.'"
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I noticed that yesterday. The new stats section is awful.'"
Yip it's gone alright and I agree the new section is dreadful. I used to really like looking at the head to head!
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| Sam No one
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| Quote ="wigan pier"Sam No one
Charnley No one
Goulding This season No one
Carmont As above
Pat Tom Briscoe as an out and out winger
Finch No One
Tommy No One
Lima No one
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"icon_lol.gif'"
What's so funny?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Add Jeff Lima to that list, he's been superb all this season, making more metres than any other prop.'"
Any other prop ,did u mean wigan prop ? I think Andy lynch is top prop so far on stats (could be wronge, its happened before haha)
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"Any other prop ,did u mean wigan prop ? I think Andy lynch is top prop so far on stats (could be wronge, its happened before haha)'"
no, Lima is #1 prop in the league in metres made.
albeit we've played 1 more game than Hull
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"Any other prop ,did u mean wigan prop ? I think Andy lynch is top prop so far on stats (could be wronge, its happened before haha)'"
i think jeff over took him last game but that is what i read on here never checked for my self.
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| I'll take your word for it guys .
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