Does anyone on here have any connections with Harvie Hill or know his contract situation? I keep seeing little murmurs about him, ones previously that he wasn’t happy with his contract/wage and others saying he is leaving (Wire mentioned). If true I think it could be a move we regret further down the line if that happens but currently it’s looking tough for him to make our 17 (although I don’t think it’s that great for a 20 year old prop to play week in week out), would also explain why we currently seem to have too many props.

Its the coach who has driven this massive overhaul in the squad, its been needed for years

He’s had the backing, so now the pressure is firmly on. I just think he tries to be a bit ‘different’ for the sake of it but now he’s got his own squad maybe that will work.

I guess it's all the sum of the parts coming together. From what I've read and seen with Frawley, he's a Phil Bailey type character. Not the world's greatest player, but a very honest type of guy who'll put the teams needs before his. Leeds need characters like that imo. Let Croft be the big game and Frawley will simply do his job.

I'm sure Wire will be stronger next year and whilst Catalan's will probably drop off (they've lost too many key players for me) it's shaping up to be a good season.

Some of our Fans (like all fans ) are too reactionary, Frawley is a steady organising half with a good Rugby brain, it was the exact type of signing we needed, people were judging him on his one year at Huddersfield.

Momirosvki is a step up from Macdonald IMO, Macdonald had a terrible attitude and whilst he was a good player he was also not an intelligent one, Mom is the opposite, we've been a dumb team for a few years, Mm is an intelligent player.

Miller is a gamble but his stats in his limited NRL appearances are very impressive but he is adding one thing we totally lack - pace, and you guys know more than anything that that is something every side needs.

You guys have been very impressive on the recruitment front I think 2024 is shaping up to be a great season, I think Saints are behind the eight ball though, they don't seem to be replacing their aging side

I think he tried to be different last year due to the imbalance in the squad, I think we'll be a bit more settled next year

Hope so. No need for not having captains/leadership groups and doing things like kicking short from kicks offs and drop outs. All felt like a bloke trying to be a bit too clever for his own good. Leeds have a good squad for next year, so if they get a good game plan in place and pick out some leaders, I see no reason why you can't kick on a few levels.

There were three standout players in that age group, Dodd, Hanley and Thewlis.


I saw Hanley destroy Saints at Langtree Park in an academy/scholarship game. Sadly he never really grew enough physically and to make matters worse for Wigan meant that they took their eye off the ball with Welsby.
I believe Hanley has acl injury now whilst at Leigh, very sad really.
Back to Dodd, he'll probably have to change his game style if he is to get anywhere near back to fulfilling his potential, it's strange that Thewlis now looks best positioned to progress further?

Sounds like Salford are in deep trouble, this won't do anything for season ticket sales, just hope they've got enough money to see them through the winter.
Professional RU has shown over the last couple of months how precarious it is for clubs.

I have been talking to a colleague at work and he has been to some of the meetings with the Salford fans/ board. They have been losing money, not has much as some of the other SL teams but they have no benefactor to cover the losses, the ongoing fire sale is really upsetting some of the supporters and as you say its not going to increase ticket sales. There are plans in place to take advantage of the increased TV coverage.

I have been talking to a colleague at work and he has been to some of the meetings with the Salford fans/ board. They have been losing money, not has much as some of the other SL teams but they have no benefactor to cover the losses, the ongoing fire sale is really upsetting some of the supporters and as you say its not going to increase ticket sales. There are plans in place to take advantage of the increased TV coverage.

Whatever happened to that millionaire fella who looked like he was going to buy the stadium for them?

Feels like that guy fancied getting his name in lights for a couple of days. Heard nothing of him since!

The situation at Salford looks worrying. Raising money from the fans, on the basis that they could hold on to their best players, only to then sell them must have lost a lot of the confidence people had in the guys running the club.

I think you have recruited well in parts (Croft and Ackers) others are in the unknown category. I think your improvement though will be judged by the performance of your federation players. If they step up then Leeds will be competitive. One thing you do need to sort is your defence, particularly in the middle of the park. Hopefully, you will have a much better season, SL needs more clubs competing for trophies. As for Saints, they will be there or thereabouts.

Im surprised none of the old Man Utd lot havent shown any interest in Salford. I know some of them are RL fans and have seen them at Wigan games in the past

There was the whole “stadium swap” situation which I thought might’ve led to something like but neither have ended up happening.

Seb Gerrard?

If that was to happen then Salford would be finished.

That's the bloke.

Listening to the NRL daily telegraph podcast. Smithies contract is 3 years, 6 figure fee to Wigan.

They realise Welsby is a superstar. They say teams are falling over themselves to sign Lewis Dodd and Harry Smith is well on the radar too.

Newman also got mentioned as wanting to go over there.

I don’t see the fuss about Dodd, maybe I’m missing something?

Newman wants to go to the NRL in 2025 but I think he knows it will only happen if he stays injury free and has a good 2024, he needs to keep his gob shut on the field aswell.

On Harry Smith I always felt he went under the radar but he’s a fantastic controlling halfback and they are really valuable I can see why NRL clubs would be interested.

Logan Astley signed a 2 year deal with Oldham.

Massively over-rated according to a lot of Wigan fans

On a less argumentative point is it a decent podcast? I listen to "The Bye Round" with James Graham, the BBC 5 live one with Dave Woods but thats it really in RL terms. I watch a lot of NRL shows including the Matty Johns with Cooper Cronk one which could be listened to as a podcast but I prefer to watch that as a video.

Logan Astley to Oldham.
I had high hopes for him but if we’ve resigned Hampshire then I suspect that he had to exit as first team opportunity’s would have been virtually non existent.

How many is "A Lot?"

Whatever it is I can confirm that it'll be a lot less than the number of Saints fans who think Wigan Players are massively over-rated