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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"No it isn't the difference.
You can't on one hand say it's ok to say British, Pommy, White etc before the C word and then argue it's not ok to say black, Polynesian, Asian etc before it.
You equally can't be denied a job because of your skin colour (regardless of what it is).
Equality means exactly what it says.'"
You seriously think people aren't denied jobs because of their skin colour? Wow! I'm not saying it should happen or that people openly advertise the fact, but it absolutely does happen. Someone calls me a pommy and it means bugger all to me, it's not associated with any discrimination me or my ancestors have suffered. I've never had it shouted across the street at me, no one has ever attacked me or anyone I've ever met for being White British. That's not the same as insults about being Polynesian, black etc. Pretty much everyone from those backgrounds living here has been through that kind of thing. That's the difference.
Besides all that, I've never heard anyone try to use white or pommy as an insult anyway. I've heard lots of people bring it up when they try to claim we have it just as bad, but I've never actually seen it happen, despite being white and spending a lot of time around antipodeans through rugby.
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Can you give any evidence to support your claim that people are STILL being enslaved or treated as second class citizens for being any ethnicity other than white?
I’m sure they have in the past, I’m no historian, but I’m pretty sure every nation/race on earth has been oppressed at some point in time.
There’s a lot of evidence that white people are actually the ones being denied job opportunities, university places etc. in order to fill some diversity quota, all the while being told that they have “white privilege” and are inherently racist.'"
Is this Nick Griffin?
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Hope your mate is OK. Maybe try explaining to him that we might theoretically get called poms at some point, and that due to diversity quotas we only have 92% of university places. That should hopefully make him realise how good he has it.
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Hope your mate is OK. Maybe try explaining to him that we might theoretically get called poms at some point, and that due to diversity quotas we only have 92% of university places. That should hopefully make him realise how good he has it.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"You seriously think people aren't denied jobs because of their skin colour? Wow! I'm not saying it should happen or that people openly advertise the fact, but it absolutely does happen. Someone calls me a pommy and it means bugger all to me, it's not associated with any discrimination me or my ancestors have suffered. I've never had it shouted across the street at me, no one has ever attacked me or anyone I've ever met for being White British. That's not the same as insults about being Polynesian, black etc. Pretty much everyone from those backgrounds living here has been through that kind of thing. That's the difference.'"
I'm not saying that at all, so please don't put words in my mouth.
I am saying that you've completely misunderstood the OP's point. He's saying they've opened themselves up to a potential mind field.
The RFL have drawn a line in the sand and said that you can't use what they describe as "unacceptable language based on national or ethnic origin". I'm all for this, but it does now mean that you can't insert any word based off national or ethnic origins before an insult - that means no Polynesian and no British, Aussie etc too. As much as I understand the sentiment, you can't have it one way and not the other.
Hypothetical situation, but if someone in work is sacked for saying what Clubb has said then that's the precedent. If the next day someone comes in and says "I'm sick of all you white people..." Then they are going to get sacked too. That's the way the law is written - it's equality for everyone not to be discriminated against. Not just those from minority backgrounds. If they didn't sack the 2nd person, then it's also discrimination against the first person etc.
The RFL now, as governing body, have a duty to charge anyone that uses "unacceptable language based on national or ethnic origin". If they don't then, ironically, Clubb could have a claim against them for discrimination.
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| Some people need to learn their history where slavery is concerned as most of the slavery over the centuries has been carried out by people of Africa, Asian and South America countries and not just the period of the cotton and Sugar trade involving our country, Africa and the USA/West Indies in the 18th century.
But what else do you expect when history is no longer taught in education.
p.s. Who do the people who want to pull down statutes think built the pyramids?
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| Quote ="Grimmy"You seriously think people aren't denied jobs because of their skin colour? Wow! I'm not saying it should happen or that people openly advertise the fact, but it absolutely does happen. Someone calls me a pommy and it means bugger all to me, it's not associated with any discrimination me or my ancestors have suffered. I've never had it shouted across the street at me, no one has ever attacked me or anyone I've ever met for being White British. That's not the same as insults about being Polynesian, black etc. Pretty much everyone from those backgrounds living here has been through that kind of thing. That's the difference.
Besides all that, I've never heard anyone try to use white or pommy as an insult anyway. I've heard lots of people bring it up when they try to claim we have it just as bad, but I've never actually seen it happen, despite being white and spending a lot of time around antipodeans through rugby.'"
Judging by the number of Black and Asian people you now see in employment, they are not doing to bad and time they stopped playing the racist card and accepted that it should be the best person for a job irrespective of colour or religion etc.
As for calling other people names, I heard far worse during the time I worked on the shop floor, but unlike the Hull player, it was kept on the shop floor and sorted out without winging to the Manager/Foreman and in the case of spot, the Referee.
Thanks to the PC Brigade, you now cannot say boo to a goose with living in a state of fear of ending up being arrested and ending up in court.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Judging by the number of Black and Asian people you now see in employment, they are not doing to bad and time they stopped playing the racist card and accepted that it should be the best person for a job irrespective of colour or religion etc.
As for calling other people names, I heard far worse during the time I worked on the shop floor, but unlike the Hull player, it was kept on the shop floor and sorted out without winging to the Manager/Foreman and in the case of spot, the Referee.
Thanks to the PC Brigade, you now cannot say boo to a goose with living in a state of fear of ending up being arrested and ending up in court.'"
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"icon_eek.gif'"
Its frightening how much of it is out there
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Its frightening how much of it is out there[/qu
I knew it would get you on pop up!
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"icon_eek.gif'"
I knew it would get you to pop up!
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| Certain posters have been quiet for a while
Combination of the team winning (its amazing how certain posters post 100xmore when the team loses) and nothing controversial to latch onto
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| And as for saying "i knew it would get you to pop up", interesting.
Would love to know if certain posters actually believe what they're writing or if they're writing it because they are trying to get a rise out of people.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Judging by the number of Black and Asian people you now see in employment, they are not doing to bad and time they stopped playing the racist card and accepted that it should be the best person for a job irrespective of colour or religion etc.
As for calling other people names, I heard far worse during the time I worked on the shop floor, but unlike the Hull player, it was kept on the shop floor and sorted out without winging to the Manager/Foreman and in the case of spot, the Referee.
Thanks to the PC Brigade, you now cannot say boo to a goose with living in a state of fear of ending up being arrested and ending up in court.'"
These days you get arrested & thrown in jail if you say you're English.
These days.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Judging by the number of Black and Asian people you now see in employment, they are not doing to bad and time they stopped playing the racist card and accepted that it should be the best person for a job irrespective of colour or religion etc.
As for calling other people names, I heard far worse during the time I worked on the shop floor, but unlike the Hull player, it was kept on the shop floor and sorted out without winging to the Manager/Foreman and in the case of spot, the Referee.
Thanks to the PC Brigade, you now cannot say boo to a goose with living in a state of fear of ending up being arrested and ending up in court.'"
Wow.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Certain posters have been quiet for a while
Combination of the team winning (its amazing how certain posters post 100xmore when the team loses) and nothing controversial to latch onto'"
It has been quiet from some posters for a while now, its to be expected that the resident racist would be unable to resist this topic
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I'm not saying that at all, so please don't put words in my mouth.
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The RFL now, as governing body, have a duty to charge anyone that uses "unacceptable language based on national or ethnic origin". If they don't then, ironically, Clubb could have a claim against them for discrimination.'"
I think they'll be fine lol
Were they supposed to let Clubb off because of this scenario you imagine?
Also I'd like to hear what race Polynesian people are from the people saying Polynesian isn't a race, not that it changes anything.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Judging by the number of Black and Asian people you now see in employment, they are not doing to bad and time they stopped playing the racist card and accepted that it should be the best person for a job irrespective of colour or religion etc.
As for calling other people names, I heard far worse during the time I worked on the shop floor, but unlike the Hull player, it was kept on the shop floor and sorted out without winging to the Manager/Foreman and in the case of spot, the Referee.
Thanks to the PC Brigade, you now cannot say boo to a goose with living in a state of fear of ending up being arrested and ending up in court.'"
Unbelievable Jeff
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| Quote ="spartakmixtapes"These days you get arrested & thrown in jail if you say you're English.
These days.'"
Thank God it's not only Me!!!
One of the funniest & cleverest comedy sections I've seen in the last 20 years ( I Love the guy from the Daily Mail eating Poppadoms silently in a restaurant with his wife as well!!! )
I even saw someone yesterday say in response to the Tony Clubb argument "In the future You'll get called Racist just for looking at someone"!
Genuinely, me & my son fell off the chair laughing!!!!!
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| Ah... The good old shop floor.
A place where you could have a proper banter with your mates, wolf whistle at the sexy young secretary as she walked past.... telling her to get 'her t*ts out for the lads' (well she was wearing a short skirt, so therefore asking for it), make the apprentices life hell by tying him up with gaffer tape and leaving him and then knocking off at 1pm on a Friday to bugger off to the social club before getting the coach to being taken over to the Embassy club to see Bernard.
But it was all in good fun wasn't it! Oh them were the days!
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| Quote ="MattyB"Ah... The good old shop floor.
A place where you could have a proper banter with your mates, wolf whistle at the sexy young secretary as she walked past.... telling her to get 'her t*ts out for the lads' (well she was wearing a short skirt, so therefore asking for it), make the apprentices life hell by tying him up with gaffer tape and leaving him and then knocking off at 1pm on a Friday to bugger off to the social club before getting the coach to being taken over to the Embassy club to see Bernard.
But it was all in good fun wasn't it! Oh them were the days!'"
Dont forget drive home with no seat belts, drunk.
Whilst smoking 40 cigs a day (it won't harm me, never mind anyone else)
And then getting home to watch Its a knockout, jim'll fix it and other good old 70s celebrities who along with their young fans "Just got on with things".
And everyone went to church on a Sunday, I mean, nothing bad could come of that could it surely?
Ahhh the gold old days.
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| Quote ="spartakmixtapes"These days you get arrested & thrown in jail if you say you're English.
These days.'"
On a side note, that's a great bit of standup.
On the other forum someone has said you're not allowed to fly a union flag anymore.
I think the Daily Mail has a lot to answer for.
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| Quote ="Pemps"On a side note, that's a great bit of standup.
On the other forum someone has said you're not allowed to fly a union flag anymore.
I think the Daily Mail has a lot to answer for.'"
Thats what I meant in my reply
The whole set of 4 or 5 series is brilliant!
And I genuinely mean it, yesterday someone wrote "in the future you'll get arrested just for looking at someone".
Rod liddell, its just come to me! The guy with the poppadoms
And Paul Nuttall of the UKIPS is hilarious
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| Quote ="Pemps"I think the Daily Mail has a lot to answer for.'"
So does the Guardian! They would have you believe that coloured people can’t go outside for fear of evil whitey!
And yes, I said coloured people, I refuse to use the other nebulous term that means the exact same thing.
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| Whooaaa its bringing them out today
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