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right i will probably get shot down for this. Yeah Cocaaine is bad but it isnt a performance enhancing drug so why the 2 year Ban?? a big fine i can undderstand and now Hock has been done they will have too carry it on SL wont have many players left lol football is the same full of it

Personally, I can't see Gareth Hock returning to top flight Rugby League again. I don't think he's got the correct mentality, attitude or those around him to help do it.

I can just see him getting banned for two years, getting a labouring job and playing for an NL2 club after the ban for extra income.

He will almost certainly have his contract cancelled if the b sample is confirmed with wigan retainign his registration



You talk like hock if the first player to ever be tested there are over 500 random tests throughout the season

www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/client ... ations.doc The RFL Anti-Doping policy www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/docu ... ept_08.pdf and the WADA prohibited list. Cocaine is only prohibited "in competition" i.e. after a match - so any testing in trainign would have shown it up, but not been a positive test.

www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/client ... ations.doc The RFL Anti-Doping policy www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/docu ... ept_08.pdf and the WADA prohibited list. Cocaine is only prohibited "in competition" i.e. after a match - so any testing in trainign would have shown it up, but not been a positive test.

What a idiot a waste of a talent.

The only facts we have are from the official statements and there is no need to go over other people's opinions on the matter. However I think there is a bit too much doom and gloom going on about this issue.

If the second sample is positive and a two year ban results then yes we will lose one of our better performers. However rather than crying over spilt milk we could look at the positive opportunities for the club rather than the prospect of losing a semi final this year.

If the b sample is positive and he is banned and sacked by the club...

We have an opportunity for one of several promising second rowers from our reserves to play for the team and stay at Wigan when they may otherwise have left to gain first team rugby.

We have more freedom to operate under the cap and with it the potential to improve the squad in an area where it is more urgently needed. This can help with the advancement by a season of our push to be more consistent and competitive.

We would have removed a deleterious example of acceptable behaviour from the club and so diminished the exposure of younger players to this practice.

The club would have a perfect opportunity to distance itself from the use of drugs by using players and others at the club to spearhead an anti drugs campaign. Such an approach would show the club in a positive light and this incident although not one that you would want to occur could be used as a starting point for this type of campaign in order to gain some positive publicity for the club.

A strong stance by the club in such a matter should attract players and coaches who are against drug use etc as well as putting off those who may be more lenient on such matters. This would help in the changing to a more positive club culture.

I may be being overly optimistic but then someone has to be.

well whichever sh[ii[/ithole hes from then

You could say he was [iscoring[/i for you

Some other SL side will have a agreement with him the minute wigan rip his contract up.

He will get signed up again to a super league club due to his immense talent. If Ryan Hudson can he will.

[i"A Person who has been declared Ineligible may not, during the period of Ineligibility, participate in any capacity in a Competition or other activity (other than authorised anti-doping education or rehabilitation programmes) organised, convened or authorised by the RFL or by any body or Club that is a member of, or affiliated to, or licensed by the RFL."[/i

so, no he cannot train with Wigan during his ban.

i was going to say that your treading a fine line with your jokes but i thinks its already been done

Could he go to union?

Good point. I think he probably could.

nothing to say he cant employ a personal trainer (wigan coach in a private capacity) during his ban though

Yes looks like Hock has been unlucky? after every superleague match 2 players from each team get there numbers pulled from a bag,all 34 players are in there they are just drawn out like the draw for the CCup.Then they dont leave the sight of the testers untill they have passed urine,it can take some time has most players will be dehydrated.

he'd be a very good centre

What were the circumstances around Chris Bridge, i am sure he got nowhere near 2 years when he tested positive.

No - he will be banned from all sports which have signed up to the WADA code of conduct - which I think RU has.

Pretty sure it was posession.

I don't think he even got tested. Just got charged (or arrested) for possession IIRC.

I thought that was only a rumour though(a very strong one but still)?

Teams sweep this sh*t under the carpet where they can which isn't helping anyone.

No; All the sports governing bodies are signed up to the same thing; Otherwise Dwain Chambers wouldn't have waited until his ban was complete before trying Rugby League.

Well you would hope so but we will have to see how the club reacts. It will obviously only take action over Hock such as sacking him if the B test proves positive but assuming it does then just sacking Hock and that being the end of it won't be enough IMO.

I have the impression that everything with the club is just too lax and the job of player is considered a 9 to 5 job where what you do after hours does not matter. Well for an athlete it does. It seems just having the odd drink isn't enough for some.

The sad thing is I am sure there are plenty of Wigan players who are not so stupid and are dedicated to their job but unfortunately this reflects on the whole club and they will be tarred with the same brush so this is why they club needs to do far more than just deal with Hock.

Dave