wigan scored 60 points against salford with sam tomkins at full back not worth given that a shot against the better teams to see how it works?

On paper we win, but the KC is one hell of a tough place to go and win. Lets hope we turn up and bounce back from last week.

Any news on the injuries? O'Carroll, Bailey, McIlorum, Amos?, Mossop?

When are we likely to get them back?

Most teams use the majority of their interchanges second half anyway so other than an injury this could see mores players (props and hookers particulalrly) doing longer stints and fewer 1st half changes. Over time this would improve their stamina.

Take Wire on Friday, if I remember correctly they only used 2 or 3 interchanges before HT and didn't use all 12 anyway.

We have the best home record in SL, only one defeat to Warrington. After a tough derby against Rovers aswell.

However with our 3 most important players out, plus Calderwood and Whiting, maybe bans for Moa and Tickle I cant see anything but an easy win for Wigan.

Quote ="{Hogan}"On paper we win, but the KC is one hell of a tough place to go and win. Lets hope we turn up and bounce back from last week.'" news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 837957.stm can only see a wigan win now, especially with coley strengthening the pack...

Quote ="{Hogan}"On paper we win, but the KC is one hell of a tough place to go and win. Lets hope we turn up and bounce back from last week.'" news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 837957.stm can only see a wigan win now, especially with coley strengthening the pack...

I predict Hull will win by 4, I think Maguire not being there will affect us more than people think. Once again I'm not confident going into this one. I'd love to be proved wrong though.

So a Hull side missing: Long, O'Meley, Fitzgibbon, Whiting, Calderwood - with Sam Moa and Danny tickle maybe facing suspension. Does it not give you any hope?

I think Calderwood missing is an advantage to be honest



I think I'm just preparing myself for the worst if we dont get a result, that way I'm not disappointed if we lose. If we stick to everything we have done so far this season we should beat them by 30, but recent defeats to Saints and Warrington have knocked my confidence in the team a bit. Saying that though we always bounce back well after a defeat.

Bring em on!

Well it gives me great confidence. Particularly when we lost last week and knowing the way we've bounced back from defeats this year.

I also think that the fact Madge isn't their won't have much of an impact. I'm sure Wane is a great motivator and particularly if the team go out their to play with the attitude of this ones for Madge.

I think you will be proved wrong...personally I hope with so many players out our fringe players can play with some pride and passion, will be happy with that because I suspect that is all we will get from this game...

Missed our game at yours so I am looking forward to watching Wigan in action.

FB 5 Richards
RW 24 Goulding
RC 3 Gleeson
LC 4 Carmont
LW 20 Pryce
SO 6 Sam
SH 7 Leuluai
P 14 Prescott
H 9 Riddell
P 10 Coley
SR 11 Hansen
SR 12 Joel/29 Tuson
LF 13 O'Loughlin

S 8 Fielden
S 19 Deacon
S 23 Mossop
S 25 Farrell

Roberts doesn't look 100%, give him some time in the reserves to get up to speed, we'll need him in the play offs!

I agree that Roberts should really build up some time in the U20s

Yeah Hull FC have got the best home record in SL, but don't forget we've got the best away record in SL. Only one defeat and that was the debacle at Bradford at the start of the season.

I'm dreading the tonking your lot are going to give us.

Just read that Mossop is ok in the Observer and thats important. If he's ok and presuming only Coley will be back i'd go-

Roberts(needs patience and some minutes under his belt)
Goulding
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
S Tomkins
Leuluai
Fielden
Riddell
Coley
Hansen
Farrell
O'Loughlin

Subs
Prescott
Mossop
J Tomkins
Tuson

I'd give Joel a little rest from the bench and let him come on and add some impact to the side. I'd also have Tuson on the bench and wouldn't mind seeing him have a little spell at hooker. I watch him play and can't help but feel he could do a decent job in there and it would add an extra string to his bow. He's got good hands and is a determinded character that would have no problem making some tough metres out of dummy half.

Reckon we'll go
Tansey
Hall
Yeaman
Turner
Briscoe
Horne
Berrigan
Dowes
Houghton
Radford
Burnett
Manu
Washbrook

Moa
Lauaki
Cusack
Nicklas

How long are O'Meely and Fitzgibbon out for?

Those 2 will be huge losses if they're not fit and along with the loss of Tickle to suspension it really adds up.

Surely kicking will be the biggest problem for FC minus Fitz, Tickle & Long I assume Horne will kick but if not him then who.

Craig Hall will come into replace Calderwood and kick goals for them according to the FC fans on their board.

Hall kicked for England academy a few years ago.

hally aint a bad kicker tbh but reckon whiting would of but wont be now with a broken arm

Squad confirmed, Amos Roberts out with a slight knee injury.

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Wigan 19 Man Squad

Martin Gleeson, George Carmont, Pat Richards, Sam Tomkins, Thomas Leuluai, Stuart Fielden, Mark Riddell, Andy Coley, Harrison Hansen, Joel Tomkins, Sean O'Loughlin, Paul Prescott, Iafeta Paleaaesina, Paul Deacon, Karl Pryce, Lee Mossop, Darrell Goulding, Liam Farrell, Chris Tuson.

Hopefully they should both be back for the Quins game next weekend.

Houghton is the one we need to watch out for, he was immense v Rovers and has been on other occasions I've been to the KC this season. Depending on where Tansey is playing if we pressure him with high balls/big hits its pretty much guaranteed to force the error in some really bad positions for them.