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| Good choices. Wonder who'll start us off on Friday!?
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| wont be Coley , he is on the bench - probably Lockers for first official game. Hope so anyway.Not that I am saying any of the captains shouldnt do it - just that it would be nice for Lockers to do it. Not that nice comes into it!!
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| Quote ="Pemps"Surely Coley's days are numbered too? He's only got a 1 year extension.'"
Theres going to have to be some big calls made at the end of 2010. We have Fielden, Coley and Feka off contract and at least one of those will leave. We then have the likely return of Hock for the 2nd part of 2011 which may mean him or Mossop(if he signs a new deal) moving to prop on a regular basis. We then have Ben davies who i'd imagine will be pushing hard for a first team spot by then aswell as more established guys like Prescott and O'Carroll.
There are also some top quality props up for grabs for 2011 like Luke Bailey and possibly Fui Fui Moi Moi.
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| Quote ="clifford"wont be Coley , he is on the bench - probably Lockers for first official game. Hope so anyway.Not that I am saying any of the captains shouldnt do it - just that it would be nice for Lockers to do it. Not that nice comes into it!!'"
Which of our 5 props misses out?
I have a feeling it may be Prescott but i'd leave O'Carroll out for this one.
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| I dont think the captain choice is a reflection of who will definately stay next year, just a relection of who the team want this year to have an influence on the pitch and off possibly going on pre-season training.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Which of our 5 props misses out?
I have a feeling it may be Prescott but i'd leave O'Carroll out for this one.'"
O,Carrol misses out. His performance against Wire possibly let him down. Bench is Coley Feka Deacon and Mossop. Pretty strong. Prescott starts
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| Quote ="clifford"O,Carrol misses out. His performance against Wire possibly let him down. Bench is Coley Feka Deacon and Mossop. Pretty strong. Prescott starts
I am happy with that.'"
IMO good decisions, roll on Friday !!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="clifford"O,Carrol misses out. His performance against Wire possibly let him down. Bench is Coley Feka Deacon and Mossop. Pretty strong. Prescott starts
I am happy with that.'"
Very Happy with that then.
I felt abit for O'Carroll against Wire. He looked to have moved into pole position for a starting spot after a good preformence at Wakefield but he didn't have his best game at Wire and was very easily dealt with by the Wire defence.
He'll be a handy squad player for us this year though.
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| I feel sorry for him a bit as he outplayed Coley against Wakey. However Coley is known for having a couple of shockers but his defence is by and large good and he adds a bit of weight to the pack. O'Carrol will get his chance as the season progresses. As madge seems to have a no nonse approach to performances, you play rubbish and your dropped!
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Quote ="NickyKiss"Theres going to have to be some big calls made at the end of 2010. We have Fielden, Coley and Feka off contract and at least one of those will leave. We then have the likely return of Hock for the 2nd part of 2011 which may mean him or Mossop(if he signs a new deal) moving to prop on a regular basis. We then have Ben davies who i'd imagine will be pushing hard for a first team spot by then aswell as more established guys like Prescott and O'Carroll.
There are also some top quality props up for grabs for 2011 like Luke Bailey and possibly Fui Fui Moi Moi.'"
FFMM has just extended his contract
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5823741963
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Quote ="NickyKiss"Theres going to have to be some big calls made at the end of 2010. We have Fielden, Coley and Feka off contract and at least one of those will leave. We then have the likely return of Hock for the 2nd part of 2011 which may mean him or Mossop(if he signs a new deal) moving to prop on a regular basis. We then have Ben davies who i'd imagine will be pushing hard for a first team spot by then aswell as more established guys like Prescott and O'Carroll.
There are also some top quality props up for grabs for 2011 like Luke Bailey and possibly Fui Fui Moi Moi.'"
FFMM has just extended his contract
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5823741963
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| LMS will have to do then.
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Luke Bailey for me
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I think he means Louis McCarthy-Scarsbrook (sp?) from Quins hth.
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| Congratultaions to all 5 IMO, they have obviously shown in training that they are worthy of MM's leadership team .. so well done to them... Roll on Friday!
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| i would personally liked to have seen fielden rather than coley. I think we will be in for a big year from stu, out of the noble comfort zone for the first time, playing for a new contract, i believe he would have thrived on the responsibility.
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| its who the coach and team want and what they can see working.Not really what us as fans want. Just because people predict a big year for Stu does not mean that his leadership skills, respect amongst team mates etc are right for being in the leadership group. We on the sidelines know very little about the dynamics in the current Wigan squad. Going off player interviews is unreliable too as everybody puts their best face on for these. I could turn it round asnd say I hope this is motivational in Coley's season and he rises to the challenge.
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| Quote ="clifford"O,Carrol misses out. His performance against Wire possibly let him down. Bench is Coley Feka Deacon and Mossop. Pretty strong. Prescott starts
I am happy with that.'"
Cameron Phelps
Amos Roberts
Martin Gleeson
George Carmont
Pat Richards
Sam Tomkins
Thomas Leuluai
Stuart Fielden
Mark Riddell
Paul Prescott
Harrison Hansen
Joel Tomkins
Sean O'loughlin
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Andy Coley
Feka Paleaasina
Paul Deacon
Lee Mossop
Something like that?
That's a very strong team. We should have some great impact from the bench.
Looking forward to the game.
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| Interesting to note that three of the five may not be with us in 2011.
A few surprise inclusions and exclusions in the five, but all in all a pretty decent group. I don't know whether it had any bearing on the decision or not, but those players come from all across the field with one captain coming from every area of the team.
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| Quote ="clifford"its who the coach and team want and what they can see working.Not really what us as fans want. Just because people predict a big year for Stu does not mean that his leadership skills, respect amongst team mates etc are right for being in the leadership group. We on the sidelines know very little about the dynamics in the current Wigan squad. Going off player interviews is unreliable too as everybody puts their best face on for these. I could turn it round asnd say I hope this is motivational in Coley's season and he rises to the challenge.'"
absolutely, it could motivate coley to have a top year but you look at the heights fielden reached as a player and what coley has achieved and they are worlds apart. i know we haven't seen the best of stu at wigan but my thoughts are been one of the chosen five may have been the catalyst we needed to see him get near that sort of form. However as you rightly point out none of us are MM and he sees things we do not. With how animated stu can get on the field i always think of him as a peacock/morley mould of player. Who would have thought Morley had those leadership qualities when he was getting sin binned and sent off every other week. i certainly didn't. Without doubt the club would benefit more from an inform Fielden than an inform Coley. Coley doesn't have the capability to reach the levels Fielden did. i just hope MM has made the right call.
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| I must admit that I am a little shocked by the 5. Well Leuluai & Coley. But I am also intrigued by the way that this is going to work so, I'm more than happy to sit back and enjoy the ride.
I could be a bold move or it could be a howler.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"absolutely, it could motivate coley to have a top year but you look at the heights fielden reached as a player and what coley has achieved and they are worlds apart. i know we haven't seen the best of stu at wigan but my thoughts are been one of the chosen five may have been the catalyst we needed to see him get near that sort of form. However as you rightly point out none of us are MM and he sees things we do not. With how animated stu can get on the field i always think of him as a peacock/morley mould of player. Who would have thought Morley had those leadership qualities when he was getting sin binned and sent off every other week. i certainly didn't. Without doubt the club would benefit more from an inform Fielden than an inform Coley. Coley doesn't have the capability to reach the levels Fielden did. i just hope MM has made the right call.'"
MM didn't make the decision tho? The team picked the five
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| Quote ="lothlorian"absolutely, it could motivate coley to have a top year but you look at the heights fielden reached as a player and what coley has achieved and they are worlds apart. i know we haven't seen the best of stu at wigan but my thoughts are been one of the chosen five may have been the catalyst we needed to see him get near that sort of form. However as you rightly point out none of us are MM and he sees things we do not. With how animated stu can get on the field i always think of him as a peacock/morley mould of player. Who would have thought Morley had those leadership qualities when he was getting sin binned and sent off every other week. i certainly didn't. Without doubt the club would benefit more from an inform Fielden than an inform Coley. Coley doesn't have the capability to reach the levels Fielden did. i just hope MM has made the right call.'"
I agree with what your saying about capabilities although Fielden has not hit top form for years now. Without saying too much I get the impression that he is not viewed like JP is at Leeds and is quiet and not much of a motivational talker in training. Whereas I believe the opposite is true of Coley. I dont want to go into personalities as this is a rugby site.
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| Quote ="clifford"I agree with what your saying about capabilities although Fielden has not hit top form for years now. Without saying too much I get the impression that he is not viewed like JP is at Leeds and is quiet and not much of a motivational talker in training. Whereas I believe the opposite is true of Coley. I dont want to go into personalities as this is a rugby site.'"
that could well be, coley looks to be a bit of a character. i like coley, hes a grafter, and maybe the players appreciate his good honest hard work. Time will tell, definately exciting times ahead. As for the above post as i understood, the players had alot to do with who was chosen but i very much doubt that MM didn't play a part in the decision making over this.
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