if thats the attitude on here why such the pooh storm When Danny Mcguire tried get a few seconds advantage in the playoffs?

I think you lot are more upset that someone has had the temerity to have a pop at the Great wigan Rugby Fc's style of play...

you might be champions but lets face it your no Saint Helens

Thanks God for that! 5mtr barge over tries are not our style.

As I said earlier Saintsfan posts for 18 months that Saints are boring under Potter and then comes on our Board and uses Saints as a Shining example of Entertaining Rugby and Wigan are Boring!

Seems to me that any time Wigan win "Some" fans think it's Boring!

Seems strange to me that the fans sat in the highest crowds in RL in what is being described by Big City Leeds fans as a Village/Hamlet etc seem to disagree?

Oh and BTW

That's his opinion, Not the "Opinion on Here".
FWIW, I couldn't give a Shiny rats backside whether every fan/official of every other club thinks Wigan are "Ruining" the game.
As I said in a post many years ago, Opposing fans Come up with reasons why they hate Wigan.

1st full time proffessional team
Maurice Lyndsay
Salary Cap (Spirit of Blah Blah Blah)
Etc,etc,etc
And Now it's Lyong on and slowing the PTB down

One day you'll realise it's got nothing to do with any of them, You just don't like Wigan! Which is fair enough.
I just wish some of you would be big enough to admit it!

You cant even come up with your own insults any more. Worst. Troll. EVER!

Wigan dominating the tackle and controlling the ruck is legal.

McGuire on Carmont wasn't.

Not upset in the slightest. In fact I couldn't care less. We had to listen to muppets who don't understand RL all last season as well. What counts is that the Rugby Gods made sure we were the best team in the league and won the big prize (and a few others). Criticise all you like...

Sure is legal, hence Wigan giving away more penalties than anyone else last year. Oh, Hang on

Getting more bites from Leeds fans than at the World Angling Championships.

And yet not so many as it made any difference.

The Rugby Gods see fit to test even their most worthy disciples by sending forth match officials of the most wicked and dubious intent.

You need to read it again, I'm not basing it on one year. I'm obviously basing it on some indications for the future that don't look too promising - the age and effectiveness of key players coming to the end of their careers, the changing financial priorities, underwhelming coaching set-up, Jimmy Lowes etc.

Here endeth the lesson.

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We're ing ourselves laughing that a thread that was flagged up on Southstander as Pie fans having a major hissy fit, has stretched to 19 friggin' pages!

Now that is a bad case of paranoia.

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Those of us who aren't interested in going on Southstander - even once in blue moon, never mind as often as you come on here - will need to take your word for it.

Well, i know for a fact you are incorrect with regards to the financial priorities, the funding for the southstand regeneration is ring-fenced through a few different funding sources and grants outside of the clubs normal revenue streams.

Im not at all underwhelmed by Brian McDermotts appointment. It seems SL fans see only the underlings of Australian Head Coaches as worthwhile. Many people were underwhelmed with Tony Smiths appointment

As for the 'age and effectiveness of key players' Sinfield and Mcguire had great years last year, they are the two most influential players at Leeds and Mcguire was imo comfortably the best S-O in the league last year and had his best season for a long while, Cross has been brought in to cover for the very talented but injury prone Eastwood will take a lot of work off Peacock. 'Age and effectiveness' was the same issue thrown about in 2006 at the likes of Lauitiiti, Senior, Peacock et al, all came good again.

Gary Hetherington comes off as abit of an idiot to be honest. TO ALL LEEDS FANS DEFENCES WIN RUGBY LEAGUE GAMES ASWELL AS ATTACK !!!!!! You seem years away from us with your coaching set up, Current squad,youth acadamys just admit your run has come to an end and wigan are back P.S what will you leeds fans be doing on feb 27th because we will be watching the 2 best teams in the world.

Settle down princess. This may come as a wee bit of a surprise to you, but for the last 10 years Wigan RL has been a bit of a joke. Remember the 70 nil tonking in the summer of 2005? That's the level of amusement you provided at Headingley. As far as the modern game, since the turn of the century it's been Leeds, Saints and Bradford. You simply were there to make up the numbers, and were not successful enough to generate any ill feeling. In fact, more comment was made when you lobbed a bog brush onto the pitch!

You took everybody by surprise last season, and played some crackin' rugby, and may well be in for a golden spell yourselves. Until you do though, all this "we are so good, everyone hates us" is a tad embarassing, and will doubtless provide us with many pish taking opportunies next season.

Super League meetings summary

Wigan won 18 Leeds 16 with 3 Draws

SL play-offs: Wigan won 5 Leeds won 3

Wigan’s highest score: Wigan 68 v Leeds 14 … 1996

Leeds’s highest score: Leeds 70 v Wigan 0 … 2005

May not have been successful but still proved a handful for the mighty Leeds.

Well if Leeds don't spend any time, money, or other resources on the ground upgrade from their normal revenue streams, they'll be the first club in history to do so. Paying for the capital costs is one thing, it's all the other crapola that comes with these projects that will effect the day-to-day bottom line.

Good luck if you think Brian McDermott is the answer to your coaching position.

Peacock, Senior, Buderus, Lauititi will all be a year older and more prove to injury (as well as retiring sooner), add in the fact your best hooker went and a less than sparkling set of youngsters coming through to take up the slack, and I'd be worried if I was a Leeds fan.

Like what? the loss of revenue from ticket sales is limited as the time chosen to rebuild will have minimal impact on Leeds season, there are additional revenue streams (as well as grants) that otherwise wouldnt be applicable than for the rebuild. Not to mention the company doing the rebuild being own by a certain Mr Caddick
Yeah, as I said, some RL fans only recognise the underlings of Australian coaches.

Are you falling for Rogues myth? Leeds have a great set of youngsters coming through, Surprisingly they have Props like Ambler, Pitts and Burgess, second rower in Clarkson, Stewart, Singleton, a Centre in Watkins, and a hooker in not only McShane but Liam Hood. Its almost like it was planned.

Very average youngsters and id hardly call burgess a youngster also mcshane is awfull looks three stone over weight

None of which would get into the Wigan team. Well, maybe Burgess.

Didnt they all play yesterday and get turned over by Fev???