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| Quote ="wigan_knight"And i suppose Ablett was just missed timed
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Nah, Ablett's timing was spot on, mistimed would be most efforts by that smackhead who could be back for you this season.
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| This. Is. Brilliant.
How annoyed and bitter are they?
Beginnning to sound just like Wire fans!
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Nah, Ablett's timing was spot on,
mistimed would be most efforts by that smackhead who could be back for you this season.'"
why who's the smackhead
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| I'd just like to point out, a Leeds team containing; Ben Jones-Bishop, Lee Smith, Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Ian Kirke, Paul McShane, Luke Burgess, Chris Clarkson, Jay Pitts, Kyle Amor & the rest being their so called 'fantastic youngsters' got absolutely hammered by Fev Yesterday, while ours beat Barrow
Go Figure.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"I'd just like to point out, a Leeds team containing; Ben Jones-Bishop, Lee Smith, Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Ian Kirke, Paul McShane, Luke Burgess, Chris Clarkson, Jay Pitts, Kyle Amor & the rest being their so called 'fantastic youngsters' got absolutely hammered by Fev Yesterday, while ours beat Barrow
Go Figure.'"
Not really a surprise to me. Leeds Senior Academy has been poor for a few seasons now.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Fully agree. I think Leeds have done extremely well in recent years - considering their barren years from the 70's - 90's.
Wigan are definitely going in the right direction (to achieve further success), the fact that our U20's are beating Barrow away 32-6 at the moment is testament to that.'"
since when were the 70s barren for Leeds ,the 70s were your most barren period ever and most of the 60s
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| small town,small minds,vicous little old women supprters too.Its a hen pecked small town clubwith a massive chipsince they had to move out of their ground andall that went with it.They belive the salary cap was introduced to shaft them and their small town midget rule bender bookie
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"small town,small minds,vicous little old women supprters too.Its a hen pecked small town clubwith a massive chipsince they had to move out of their ground andall that went with it.They belive the salary cap was introduced to shaft them and their small town midget rule bender bookie'"
Well jog on back to your own forum! Thanks for stopping by and showing us what yorkshire folk are like!
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| Quote ="Bilko"Not really a surprise to me. Leeds Senior Academy has been poor for a few seasons now.'"
Bilko.
I've been asking them why that is four around three years. Occasionally I got a rational answer, but most seem to bury their heads in the sand and say that they are still producing quality youngsters.
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| Just read all 18 pages. Wow. Loving the banter. One poster summed it up perfectly with the “My dad’s bigger than your dad” arguments that have been going on regarding history.
My points :
1. I wish Danny McGuire a full recovery. I do think he cheated, but don’t wish him any harm. (We wouldn’t want the fact that he is out injured as an excuse if Leeds play poorly this season.). As some have said Wigan are far from whiter than white.
2. As for the play the ball / holding down issue. Are there any stats on this. Phil Clarke did briefly touch on this during a sky game last season, but it sure would make interesting reading. This whole lying on thing started following the Hull game, our 5th win out of six coming after the defeat at Bradford the week before. Richard Agar made the comment after his team IMO were far, far, more guilty of lying on in that match and trying to keep the score down as we were very impressive. (Hull scored a couple of very dubious late tries that didn’t matter but made the final scoreline flatter them.) I genuinely don’t believe that we are any better or worse than any other team in the league and this is purely a media driven myth started by Agar with everyone else jumping on the bandwagon. I am sure you will let me know if you think I am watching through my cherry and white specs, but this is my opinion.
3. Talk of Leeds’ demise is premature, but I don’t see them winning anything this year. They are still a good side, who like us, do play attractive rugby.
4. All the comments about history/honours, support, style of rugby are all coming from Leeds / Saints / Wire fans. You can almost smell the undercurrent of fear. Make no mistake, we are favourites for all trophies to be contested this season and rightly so, the more they post the more fuel it adds to the fire. I am pretty new to this board, and only started posting in September. Were we as bad as this when we were not winning anything?
It is hard not to gloat and as I say I love the banter. I get the general feeling that we are optimistic that we can dominate in the way Saints/Bradford/Leeds have in the Super League era, I’m not saying we will but it certainly wouldn’t surprise me if we did, everything is in place. It would be great to come back on here in 3 or 4 years time having won a load of SLs/CCs, I wonder what arguments could then be made about our honours list?
It says it all really, that the only thing Wigan fans are worried about is how S$$t our kits are. (and I still like it).
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| Looks like reality is starting to hit some of the Whinos at last and all they can do is lash out at the champion team.
- The production line of youngsters is drying up
- A squad where some of the key players aren't as effective as they once where, with some coming towards the end of their careers
- New ground improvements to be paid for and the money diverted away from the rugby operation to pay for it
- Brian McDermott being an example of taking the cheap option
- Jimmy Lowes
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"since when were the 70s barren for Leeds ,the 70s were your most barren period ever and most of the 60s'"
When you say '"most of the 60s", I guess you mean the 60s apart from 1960 (League Champions), 1962 (Lancashire League winners), 1965 (Challenge Cup winners) 1966 (Lancashire Cup winners), and 1968 (Floodlit Cup winners).
It seems you're pretty good at common abuse, but don't have much of a handle on facts.
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| Quote ="pondmonster"2. As for the play the ball / holding down issue. Are there any stats on this. Phil Clarke did briefly touch on this during a sky game last season, but it sure would make interesting reading. This whole lying on thing started following the Hull game, our 5th win out of six coming after the defeat at Bradford the week before. Richard Agar made the comment after his team IMO were far, far, more guilty of lying on in that match and trying to keep the score down as we were very impressive. (Hull scored a couple of very dubious late tries that didn’t matter but made the final scoreline flatter them.) I genuinely don’t believe that we are any better or worse than any other team in the league and this is purely a media driven myth started by Agar with everyone else jumping on the bandwagon. I am sure you will let me know if you think I am watching through my cherry and white specs, but this is my opinion.'"
Any RL fan who complains about Wigan 'lying on' is an idiot and should be summarily executed.
Wigan do not 'lie on'. What they actually do is hold the man up using 2-3 men. Before the ref shouts 'held', they then force him to the floor (more often than not on his back) and peel off 1 at a time, with the first man off sprinting back to the defensive line.
They control the tackle and the ruck. All of this gains no more than a few seconds advantage - but it's enough to ensure your defensive line is back, set and ready to come in and dominate again.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"I'd just like to point out, a Leeds team containing; Ben Jones-Bishop, Lee Smith, Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Ian Kirke, Paul McShane, Luke Burgess, Chris Clarkson, Jay Pitts, Kyle Amor & the rest being their so called 'fantastic youngsters' got absolutely hammered by Fev Yesterday, while ours beat Barrow
Go Figure.'"
BPIT.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Looks like reality is starting to hit some of the Whinos at last and all they can do is lash out at the champion team.
- The production line of youngsters is drying up
- A squad where some of the key players aren't as effective as they once where, with some coming towards the end of their careers
- New ground improvements to be paid for and the money diverted away from the rugby operation to pay for it
- Brian McDermott being an example of taking the cheap option
- Jimmy Lowes'"
And you have decided this on what can only be one season?
what leeds you to believe that the poor form from some of Leeds senior players last year (and ill admit there was some) wasnt a blip?
Id certainly say we werent as bad last year as in 2006, yet looked what happened after that?
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| Quote ="Cronus"Any RL fan who complains about Wigan 'lying on' is an idiot and should be summarily executed.
Wigan do not 'lie on'. What they actually do is hold the man up using 2-3 men. Before the ref shouts 'held', they then force him to the floor (more often than not on his back) and peel off 1 at a time, with the first man off sprinting back to the defensive line.
They control the tackle and the ruck. =#FF0000All of this gains no more than a few seconds advantage - but it's enough to ensure your defensive line is back, set and ready to come in and dominate again.'"
if thats the attitude on here why such the pooh storm When Danny Mcguire tried get a few seconds advantage in the playoffs?
I think you lot are more upset that someone has had the temerity to have a pop at the Great wigan Rugby Fc's style of play...
you might be champions but lets face it your no Saint Helens
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"if thats the attitude on here why such the pooh storm When Danny Mcguire tried get a few seconds advantage in the playoffs?
I think you lot are more upset that someone has had the temerity to have a pop at the Great wigan Rugby Fc's style of play...
[uyou might be champions but lets face it your no Saint Hel[/uens'"
Thanks God for that! 5mtr barge over tries are not our style.
As I said earlier Saintsfan posts for 18 months that Saints are boring under Potter and then comes on our Board and uses Saints as a Shining example of Entertaining Rugby and Wigan are Boring!
Seems to me that any time Wigan win "Some" fans think it's Boring!
Seems strange to me that the fans sat in the highest crowds in RL in what is being described by Big City Leeds fans as a Village/Hamlet etc seem to disagree?
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"if thats the attitude on here why such the pooh storm When Danny Mcguire tried get a few seconds advantage in the playoffs?
I think you lot are more upset that someone has had the temerity to have a pop at the Great wigan Rugby Fc's style of play...
you might be champions but lets face it your no Saint Helens'"
Oh and BTW
That's his opinion, Not the "Opinion on Here".
FWIW, I couldn't give a Shiny rats backside whether every fan/official of every other club thinks Wigan are "Ruining" the game.
As I said in a post many years ago, Opposing fans Come up with reasons why they hate Wigan.
1st full time proffessional team
Maurice Lyndsay
Salary Cap (Spirit of Blah Blah Blah)
Etc,etc,etc
And Now it's Lyong on and slowing the PTB down
One day you'll realise it's got nothing to do with any of them, You just don't like Wigan! Which is fair enough.
I just wish some of you would be big enough to admit it!
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Small town, small minds, vicious little old women supporters too, its a hen-pecked small town club with a massive chip since their fall from grace, who still believe that the salary cap was only introduced to shaft them and their midget bookie rule-bending owner.'"
Quote ="lionarmour87"small town,small minds,vicous little old women supprters too.Its a hen pecked small town clubwith a massive chipsince they had to move out of their ground andall that went with it.They belive the salary cap was introduced to shaft them and their small town midget rule bender bookie'"
You cant even come up with your own insults any more. Worst. Troll. EVER!
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"if thats the attitude on here why such the pooh storm When Danny Mcguire tried get a few seconds advantage in the playoffs?
I think you lot are more upset that someone has had the temerity to have a pop at the Great wigan Rugby Fc's style of play...
you might be champions but lets face it your no Saint Helens'"
Wigan dominating the tackle and controlling the ruck is legal.
McGuire on Carmont wasn't.
Not upset in the slightest. In fact I couldn't care less. We had to listen to muppets who don't understand RL all last season as well. What counts is that the Rugby Gods made sure we were the best team in the league and won the big prize (and a few others). Criticise all you like...
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| Quote ="Cronus"Wigan dominating the tackle and controlling the ruck is legal.
McGuire on Carmont wasn't.
Not upset in the slightest. In fact I couldn't care less. We had to listen to muppets who don't understand RL all last season as well. What counts is that the Rugby Gods made sure we were the best team in the league and won the big prize (and a few others). Criticise all you like...
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Sure is legal, hence Wigan giving away more penalties than anyone else last year. Oh, Hang on
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| Getting more bites from Leeds fans than at the World Angling Championships.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Sure is legal, hence Wigan giving away more penalties than anyone else last year. Oh, Hang on
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And yet not so many as it made any difference.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Sure is legal, hence Wigan giving away more penalties than anyone else last year. Oh, Hang on
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The Rugby Gods see fit to test even their most worthy disciples by sending forth match officials of the most wicked and dubious intent.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"And you have decided this on what can only be one season?
what leeds you to believe that the poor form from some of Leeds senior players last year (and ill admit there was some) wasnt a blip?
Id certainly say we werent as bad last year as in 2006, yet looked what happened after that?'"
You need to read it again, I'm not basing it on one year. I'm obviously basing it on some indications for the future that don't look too promising - the age and effectiveness of key players coming to the end of their careers, the changing financial priorities, underwhelming coaching set-up, Jimmy Lowes etc.
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