Calderwood, Dykes, Thorman.
Good to know we're not alone

You did offer him a deal and a very good one, and your chairman and Mr Noble and a couple of players visited him on Sunday but he had been talking to Hull for a while and decided on sticking with them!

Calderwood's been one of our best players this year (albeit not a very hard task

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Lenagan only gets back from Australia today according to our local paper so that doesn't work out!

I've no doubts we offered him a deal though as i've been told that by a good friend of his but think it's best for everybody that he's decided against it.

I wouldn't have been one but alot of other fans at Wigan just wouldn't have settled for it.

Isn't IL still in Aussie?

He is returning today, he did well to pop back to offer long a deal and go back to oz for 2 days though

why did long snub your selves for hull?

Cause you gave him more money?

I think he snubbed Wakey and Hudds, there has been no confirmation he received an offer from Wigan

I don't think anybody knows 100% that he did but if he did i'd guess it must come down to being offered less money then what Hull or giving him or the fact that he'd get hell of the majority of fans here at Wigan.

because its easier to play for hull where the expectation on him is less (and because he was prolly offered more money)

Probably because the Wigan chairman wasn't here to return his pleading phonecall.

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it is a big challenge

IL was due to meet Longy tomorrow to discuss a deal for the next 2 years.

In the mean time Longy got offered exactly the terms he wanted by Hull and signed the deal.

Long had already been quoted a figure Wigan was prepared but it was less than other clubs Wakey being 1 and it wasnt a fixed 2 year deal was 1 year with 1 year dependent from what ive been told.

This is true.

I'm sure Long's not as daft as he looks. He would have known that a move to Wigan would have been as bad for him as it would have been for the club.

It's a bloody good job he isn't

If IL was scheduled to meet Long tomorrow. Doesn't that suggest that we haven't got anybody lined up to come in from Aus. Why would he arrange to meet Long if he thought there was a great possibility in a Class HB coming in from Aus?

I am sure he has more options than just Long, IL has probably made approaches to players we will never even know about.

It's alomost nailed on we'll fanny about until mid January watching all over superleague teams getting their squads together whilst we miss out on any decent players and then we'll end up with a fullback, another winger, a centre and a utility scrum half/hooker and no more forwards!

We're very modern thinking in that we're going to stop playing with forwards and just have 13 backs

I know it's already been said but Calderwood has been one of our best players. He had a bit of a mountain to climb because his signing was viewed with a fair amount of suspicion but it's fair to say he's won us over. Best of a bad bunch it'd be fair to say. Can't argue with the others though.

Yep, has already been said, but I agree.
He more often than not gave 100% for Wigan... problem was he was crap.

In the right side with the right tactics Calderwood is a decent wingman.

Always said put him in the Saints side instead of Gardner and he'd do far more for them. He would take the walk ins on offer from Gidley and previously Lyon but unlike Gardner would work his knackers off for the team and chase lost causes.