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| Quote ="Stu M"My stalker Rob will no doubt come on tonight after a few beers and accuse me of wanting to suck up to strangers on a forum but I have put the same on Redvee. I genuinely want Wigan to beat Leigh on Friday and by a good score. Naturally I don't want them to win the comp but Leigh have very quickly become one of my most hated clubs
Beaumont and his behaviour is the biggest factor. The man is an absolute tool and has no class whatsoever. His tweet after we lost to Warrington on Saturday just summed him up, not sure why he felt the need to have a pop at Salford in the same tweet either
Despite what I want I think Wigan will win comfortably anyway. Despite being a better team, for some reason Leigh make it easier for them by rolling over and having their tummy tickled most times. Charnley missing is a big loss for them too.
I'm hoping for a Wigan v HKR final which is what it should be. 1 v2, the two best teams in the comp.'"
I think we've generally been fortunate in when we've played them. Last year we played them straight after Wembley and I seem to remember the first game they had a quick turnaround/couple of injuries. They didn't roll over for us going into the play offs, but this season too we've tended to play them at a good time.
I think it'll probably be the same on Saturday. They'll definitely feel like they owe us one, but it's a big ask to back up last week with a depleted squad.
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| Quote ="NSW"Having a week off is 100% an advantage. No risk of bans, head knocks, injuries, fatigue. A chance to rest the body after a gruelling season.
If Leigh beat us everyone will bring up the lazy week off narrative but if they do beat us it’ll be because they played better than us on the night.
Leigh’s good players are amazing, Lam, Ipape, Amone, Asista, Mulhern, O’Donnell. I just think they have 1 or 2 passengers that we can get at and get our points.
Fancy us to progress but it’ll take all 80 minutes I feel.'"
I think a problem with how people think about the week off is that they judge it exclusively on the result of the next game. For me the biggest advantage we have there is less about whether we're more likely to beat Leigh, and more about whether we're more likely to win at Old Trafford. That's a difficult thing to prove obviously, but I'd feel a lot better about our chances in the GF after a week off and one possibly tough game, than I would about facing a third tough knockout game in a row, like Wire will be facing if they get past Hull KR.
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| Quote ="Stu M"My stalker Rob will no doubt come on tonight after a few beers and accuse me of wanting to suck up to strangers on a forum but I have put the same on Redvee. I genuinely want Wigan to beat Leigh on Friday and by a good score. Naturally I don't want them to win the comp but Leigh have very quickly become one of my most hated clubs
Beaumont and his behaviour is the biggest factor. The man is an absolute tool and has no class whatsoever. His tweet after we lost to Warrington on Saturday just summed him up, not sure why he felt the need to have a pop at Salford in the same tweet either
Despite what I want I think Wigan will win comfortably anyway. Despite being a better team, for some reason Leigh make it easier for them by rolling over and having their tummy tickled most times. Charnley missing is a big loss for them too.
I'm hoping for a Wigan v HKR final which is what it should be. 1 v2, the two best teams in the comp.'"
Came on to say pretty much this. I don't really care who wins but I'd be amazed if Leigh did.
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| Quote ="SFW"Came on to say pretty much this. I don't really care who wins but I'd be amazed if Leigh did.'"
Or alternatively "are usually beaten by a much better team on the day".
Don't let me spoil your Saints centric narrative though.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Forecast for Friday is dry, as is Thursday and Saturday, so reasonably confident that torrential rain wont be an issue.'"
Next few days should be dry but Saturday looks mixed at best.
For me its a huge factor as on a dry and fast track I dont think there's anything stopping Wigan with the pace and agility in the team. Difficult to remember a game in the last couple of years when we've lost in those conditions with a near full squad available. If it's wet it's a potential leveller as we've seen in the past.
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| Quote ="Stu M"My stalker Rob will no doubt come on tonight after a few beers and accuse me of wanting to suck up to strangers on a forum but I have put the same on Redvee. I genuinely want Wigan to beat Leigh on Friday and by a good score. Naturally I don't want them to win the comp but Leigh have very quickly become one of my most hated clubs
Beaumont and his behaviour is the biggest factor. The man is an absolute tool and has no class whatsoever. His tweet after we lost to Warrington on Saturday just summed him up, not sure why he felt the need to have a pop at Salford in the same tweet either
Despite what I want I think Wigan will win comfortably anyway. Despite being a better team, for some reason Leigh make it easier for them by rolling over and having their tummy tickled most times. Charnley missing is a big loss for them too.
I'm hoping for a Wigan v HKR final which is what it should be. 1 v2, the two best teams in the comp.'"
Foxtrot Oscar you soft Stains melt.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Foxtrot Oscar you soft Stains melt.'"
A grown man using the term "Stains"
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Next few days should be dry but Saturday looks mixed at best.
For me its a huge factor as on a dry and fast track I dont think there's anything stopping Wigan with the pace and agility in the team. Difficult to remember a game in the last couple of years when we've lost in those conditions with a near full squad available. If it's wet it's a potential leveller as we've seen in the past.'"
Looking at various forecasts at this moment in time all seem to show dry and settled (with sunshine periods) from now right through to kick off at 5.30pm. However there is a shower period due anytime around 7-10pm. So we may just get away with a dry fast track pitch for the majority if not all of the match (obviously forecasts can change).
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| Quote ="MattyB"Looking at various forecasts at this moment in time all seem to show dry and settled (with sunshine periods) from now right through to kick off at 5.30pm. However there is a shower period due anytime around 7-10pm. So we may just get away with a dry fast track pitch for the majority if not all of the match (obviously forecasts can change).'"
Fingers crossed - always helps the spectacle.
Ticket sales look strong as well with over 15k sold thus far though I can never understand why the club doesn't prioritise filling the stand the TV cameras face (East). South, North and West will be pretty much full but the big gaps in the East are what show up on Sky.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Fingers crossed - always helps the spectacle.
Ticket sales look strong as well with over 15k sold thus far though I can never understand why the club doesn't prioritise filling the stand the TV cameras face (East). South, North and West will be pretty much full but the big gaps in the East are what show up on Sky.'"
In the past am I right in thinking the West Stand was slightly more expensive than the East Stand and then they brought them in line? Since then it seems like the West gets more people in and the East less than was previously the case and then like you say, it doesn't look great on TV.
Even if it's only a couple of quid difference I think they should try and get more people gravitating towards the East and I also do not like them putting the community clubs in the North most weeks, as again that take people and atmosphere away from the South and East stands.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"In the past am I right in thinking the West Stand was slightly more expensive than the East Stand and then they brought them in line? Since then it seems like the West gets more people in and the East less than was previously the case and then like you say, it doesn't look great on TV.
Even if it's only a couple of quid difference I think they should try and get more people gravitating towards the East and I also do not like them putting the community clubs in the North most weeks, as again that take people and atmosphere away from the South and East stands.'"
Yes you're right - they changed the prices a couple of years ago making the East and West the same. I don't understand the logic behind it as I've always thought having full stands on the TV makes it feel more important which a) casts the sport in a good light and b) may do more to persuade others to buy a ticket next time round.
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| Interesting snippets from the Leigh press conference-
Lammy doesn't think Wigan should have home advantage for this one, saying semis should be played at neutral venues. May as well do away with the league season in that case and do a cup draw.
Had to laugh when they told him about the praise Matty Peet had given him and was asked about the job he thought he was doing at Wigan and his response was to basically say that Wigan spend the most money, have the best assistants and a new owner and 'they're doing well' and are set up for success for 5-10 years.
Slightly bitter to say the least.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Interesting snippets from the Leigh press conference-
Lammy doesn't think Wigan should have home advantage for this one, saying semis should be played at neutral venues. May as well do away with the league season in that case and do a cup draw.
[uHad to laugh when they told him about the praise Matty Peet had given him and was asked about the job he thought he was doing at Wigan and his response was to basically say that Wigan spend the most money, have the best assistants and a new owner and 'they're doing well' and are set up for success for 5-10 years.[/u
Slightly bitter to say the least.'"
He also emphasized more, and praised you more on what you've said. What more did you want him to say?
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| Quote ="Cokey"He also emphasized more, and praised you more on what you've said. What more did you want him to say?'"
He was asked specifically about Matty Peet and did everything he could to make it sound like Peet has it easy and that any success is because of other people and the advantages Peet has (great assistants, great academy, rich chairman etc).
As I say, he came across as pretty bitter to me.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He was asked specifically about Matty Peet and did everything he could to make it sound like Peet has it easy and that any success is because of other people and the advantages Peet has (great assistants, great academy, rich chairman etc).
As I say, he came across as pretty bitter to me.'"
If you think he's bitter, has your club made him to feel that way?
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| Quote ="Cokey"If you think he's bitter, has your club made him to feel that way?'"
Matt Peet got his job. Is that enough, in your opinion, to make him bitter?
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Matt Peet got his job. Is that enough, in your opinion, to make him bitter?'"
No not really.
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| I can imagine Lam is not overly pleased when he looks at his chairman's antics and the leotard-like outfits he has to wear on matchday, then reflects on what might have been if he'd been a little better in his role at Wigan.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"I can imagine Lam is not overly pleased when he looks at his chairman's antics and the leotard-like outfits he has to wear on matchday, then reflects on what might have been if he'd been a little better in his role at Wigan.'"
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| Quote ="Cokey"If you think he's bitter, has your club made him to feel that way?'"
You'd have to ask him why he came across that way and why he felt the need to deflect any praise whatsoever away from his old assistant coach. Sad really, especially when the question was asked because Matty Peet had praised the job Lam has done at Leigh but the green eyed monster does funny things to a man.
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| 17k tickets sold, should be a cracker.
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| Quote ="MattyB"17k tickets sold, should be a cracker.'"
It's pleasing to see the play off crowds looking like they're bucking the trend this season. The venues and fixtures have played it's part (The fact most Yorkshire clubs don't bother with the play offs anymore helps keep the travelling down) but it's still positive and hopefully something we can build on. The biggest and best games of the season having the lowest crowds was always pretty baffling.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"You'd have to ask him why he came across that way and why he felt the need to deflect any praise whatsoever away from his old assistant coach. Sad really, especially when the question was asked because Matty Peet had praised the job Lam has done at Leigh but the green eyed monster does funny things to a man.'"
If you think Lam is bitter, then fine, that's your opinion. Lam is doing a fine job at Leigh, and brought our club to where we have never been before. He is showing his coaching class in bringing Leigh from the championship with 7 players, winning the C-Cup, to a semi final in the play offs in 3 seasons. Ok, if he veered off praising Peet; I'll do it instead.......Peet, tha doin a grand job owd lad.
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| Quote ="Cokey"If you think Lam is bitter, then fine, that's your opinion. Lam is doing a fine job at Leigh, and brought our club to where we have never been before. He is showing his coaching class in bringing Leigh from the championship with 7 players, winning the C-Cup, to a semi final in the play offs in 3 seasons. Ok, if he veered off praising Peet; I'll do it instead.......Peet, tha doin a grand job owd lad.
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It is and I also agree with you in that Lam has done a great job at Leigh. He's a Wigan legend, so I'm pleased for him and it's been great for both clubs to have Leigh back in Superleague and doing well. I just found it a bit sad that Lam couldn't bring himself to praise a young guy, who used to assist him in coaching Wigan. They've both gone on to do really well, so you'd like to think his feeling would be more of pride and being happy for a mate but it came across as the opposite. I doubt Peet will lose any sleep though in fairness.
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| 17k sold now which beats the league fixture in July, good effort, hopefully it'll be close to 20k come kick-off
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