fair enough i dont have sky

and fast forwarded past all the pre and ht stuff on Warriors TV, so i could just watch the game. I only saw Barrie, Carney and Gleeson in front of me in the East Stand, oh and Offiah

He was at the Hull game.

They may keep him away from Saints games for a while but it's not as controversial as his rugby gods comment and he didn't get sacked for that.

I can’t speyk.

I still find it bewildering that Clarke's comments about Shaun Wane weren't challenged by any of the other commentators.

To refresh minds, he doubted that Wane was the man for the England job. No argument with him there. I personally rate Shaun Wane's coaching skills, but everyone can make their own mind up whether he's international standard or not. It was what followed that was outrageous. Carney contended that Wane had won several trophies while coaching Wigan, to which Clarke responded with the blatant lie that this was because Wigan had spent more money than anyone else.

I don't know whether they were all too gobsmacked to respond, but I literally remember no one tackling him for that. Remember, this was in the near-enough here and now, deep in the era of the Salary Cap.

How he could criticise one of the British game's most respected professionals, and then offer THAT as an explanation still beggars belief.

I was watching Bradford v Halifax last night on Viacom, and although I wouldn't say the commentary is brilliant (Leon Pryce and co), it's still streets ahead of Sky.

is viacom still a thing?

Wilkin talking s h I t e again

Wells was asking if Warrington could hang on a half time.

He must have taught Jake Connor about how to look at a scoreboard.

Literally could not care any less about anything that comes out of Wilkin's mouth. A car crash pundit.

To be fair I thought the rant about you guys slowing us down and being happy to concede a penalty etc was obviously just a dig at Clarke. He basically copied his rant word for word, without using the word cheating and instead replacing it with "just like any team in super league"

Agree he's largely e though. As is Clarke. Sky is just e all over the show, Pyke is one of the worst I've ever seen

On Pyke I’m staggered that someone who speaks like he has a bag of Werthers Originals in his mouth is allowed to commentate on National TV.

I thought that. He even looks at him as he says it.

Dunno about 'still', it's the renamed Freesports channel.

I don't mind Wilkin on other-than-Saints games. At least you can understand what he's saying.