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| Wins a win against a side that will be more than likely be in the playoffs.
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| It was a tough watch. Maybe our discipline is just dreadful but it felt like we got battered again. The ref gave a tip tackle against us that looked dubious and then didn’t give one against them with 30 second left, that was clearly worse. We grafted hard and finally seemed to up our intensity in the last 20 mins, so hopefully that’s something to build on.
As for Huddersfield, you’d struggle to part with your money to watch that every week. Watson got so much praise for Salfords entertaining brand of rugby under him but that clearly wasn’t down to him. He must be the most risk averse coach in Rugby League. They took a hit up with 5 seconds on the click to seal the game for Wigan, which summed it up.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"
As for Huddersfield, you’d struggle to part with your money to watch that every week. Watson got so much praise for Salfords entertaining brand of rugby under him but that clearly wasn’t down to him. .'"
Gleeson played a huge role in the good rugby Salford played that year. Whilst I understand there's baggage there with Wigan, I'm very disappointed we didn't bring him in when he left England RU.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Gleeson played a huge role in the good rugby Salford played that year. Whilst I understand there's baggage there with Wigan, I'm very disappointed we didn't bring him in when he left England RU.'"
Watched the podcast with Flanagan/Wilkin earlier and Flanagan seemed to basically say their success with down to Gleeson, certainly in terms of attack.
I think the baggage would stop that tbh. It sounds like he’s extremely well thought of around both codes.
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| What to do with Paddy Mago...so frustrating after a positive performance last week.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"What to do with Paddy Mago...so frustrating after a positive performance last week.'"
Frustrating is the right word. His teammates patting him on the back after his last daft error was more generous than I could be. He needs a rocket up his backside for me. He wastes any good work he does with the most basic, lazy errors you could see. I’d be amazed if he’s here in 2024.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Frustrating is the right word. His teammates patting him on the back after his last daft error was more generous than I could be. He needs a rocket up his backside for me. He wastes any good work he does with the most basic, lazy errors you could see. I’d be amazed if he’s here in 2024.'"
And if so another black mark in the recruitment book for Kris Radlinski unfortunately. Its tough to think of the opportunities we've had to address our front row weaknesses over the last five years - few would say any of Bullock, Burgess, Clark, Mago, Ellis, Singleton etc have been definitive success stories (understatement with a few of them).
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| Scrappy game to say the least.
Thought Huddersfield were really poor. Do all the “big game stuff” like take the 2 and turn over ball in good positions but didn’t really throw anything at us.
We just aren’t clicking this year. I was so frustrated Bevan barely got involved in the first 60 minutes so welcomed the move to full back.
After 3 years suffering from it, I was glad we could benefit from Bibby being totally inept under the high ball. Harry Smith kicked well.
Liam Marshall had a fantastic game bar the one error. He took plenty of difficult bombs and his carries were immense.
Win the next 2 then get one win from the Saints/wire double and we’ll be in decent shape.
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| Quote ="NSW"Scrappy game to say the least.
Thought Huddersfield were really poor. Do all the “big game stuff” like take the 2 and turn over ball in good positions but didn’t really throw anything at us.
We just aren’t clicking this year. I was so frustrated Bevan barely got involved in the first 60 minutes so welcomed the move to full back.
After 3 years suffering from it, I was glad we could benefit from Bibby being totally inept under the high ball. Harry Smith kicked well.
Liam Marshall had a fantastic game bar the one error. He took plenty of difficult bombs and his carries were immense.
Win the next 2 then get one win from the Saints/wire double and we’ll be in decent shape.'"
I think that is a fair comment but this week we found a way to win. Our defence was a lot better. We are still weak in certain positions and that needs to be addressed. We badly need a 6, Cust has no creativity or pace; 9 is an issue but Cust may be our best option. We definitely need a prop and second row, we need to dominate the opposition.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Frustrating is the right word. His teammates patting him on the back after his last daft error was more generous than I could be. He needs a rocket up his backside for me. He wastes any good work he does with the most basic, lazy errors you could see. I’d be amazed if he’s here in 2024.'"
He needs to be dropped and at the end of the season shown the door. He does not contribute enough to the team. There are better British players in SL who are on a fraction of his salary.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"We were horrible in all honesty.
Moving French to fullback and Cust to hooker helped us a bit - we need to commit to that going forward.'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It was a tough watch. Maybe our discipline is just dreadful but it felt like we got battered again. The ref gave a tip tackle against us that looked dubious and then didn’t give one against them with 30 second left, that was clearly worse. We grafted hard and finally seemed to up our intensity in the last 20 mins, so hopefully that’s something to build on.
As for Huddersfield, you’d struggle to part with your money to watch that every week. Watson got so much praise for Salfords entertaining brand of rugby under him but that clearly wasn’t down to him. He must be the most risk averse coach in Rugby League. They took a hit up with 5 seconds on the click to seal the game for Wigan, which summed it up.'"
Defence won that game for us and that is a positive.
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| It was a tough watch live, and I expect it will be the same on replay, but it's a hard-fought win, though I really thought the story of the night was the Giants' relative toothlessness. I agree Marshall was very good apart from that one error; they seemed to kick to him all night without success.
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| Quote ="Zig"Defence won that game for us and that is a positive.'"
There didn’t look much to defend against without Fages the Giants look clueless. How French was able to wrestle out of the tackle from lolehai I would never know. He’s a joke
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| Agreed. The Lolehai 'tackle' was a shocker.
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| Quote ="moto748"It was a tough watch live, and I expect it will be the same on replay, but it's a hard-fought win, though I really thought the story of the night was the Giants' relative toothlessness. I agree Marshall was very good apart from that one error; they seemed to kick to him all night without success.'"
Weird tactics kicking high towards Bibby. He showed again last night, as he did many times here, that if you want to play him on the wing, you’re going to have to accept that he is so poor under the high ball at both ends of the field.
I find the approach of Huddersfield in general extremely strange. They’ve built a squad of 25+ experienced players but you’re never going to fit them all in and in turn, you’re spreading your cap space extremely thinly. They needed a couple of X factor players in that cup final last year and they need some pace but Watson just seems to want to think ‘safety first’ at every single turn and that’s included building a squad that will cover 10+ injuries. Unfortunately that leaves them short of strike power week to week.
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| Better stats from the forwards with the exception of Isa and Byrne going forward.
I really think the lack of go forward from 2 secondrows is hurting us.
Faz, King, Field and Marshy all racking up big numbers as usual.
Wardle improving but would still like to see him work a bit harder carrying.
I’d really like to see us run with French at 1, Field at 6 and Cust at 9 earlier in the game next week before we head into the Easter period.
We look a lot slicker and threatening when we have that formation.
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| I would rather keep Field away from 6, but the two of them being more involved can only be a good thing.
Think this could be the mid-game Ace up our sleeves similar to when we used to switch Sam to 6.
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| Quote ="jonh"Better stats from the forwards with the exception of Isa and Byrne going forward.
I really think the lack of go forward from 2 secondrows is hurting us.
Faz, King, Field and Marshy all racking up big numbers as usual.
Wardle improving but would still like to see him work a bit harder carrying.
I’d really like to see us run with French at 1, Field at 6 and Cust at 9 earlier in the game next week before we head into the Easter period.
We look a lot slicker and threatening when we have that formation.'"
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| Quote ="jonh"Better stats from the forwards with the exception of Isa and Byrne going forward.
I really think the lack of go forward from 2 secondrows is hurting us.
Faz, King, Field and Marshy all racking up big numbers as usual.
Wardle improving but would still like to see him work a bit harder carrying.
I’d really like to see us run with French at 1, Field at 6 and Cust at 9 earlier in the game next week before we head into the Easter period.
We look a lot slicker and threatening when we have that formation.'"
2 bad errors from Isa in try scoring positions, 43 metres and 6 missed tackles.
KPP didn’t get much game time but showed some good signs IMO. In the crunch last 10 minutes he came up with 2 massive shots, one of Seb Ikahihifo (who tore us apart all game) and one on I think Masters.
Ikahihifo is a 32 year old overseas impact prop. Last night he did 22 tackles with 2 misses, 13 carries for 141m and one error.
Our overseas impact prop Mago did 12 tackles, missing 4!! Ran 5 carries for 37m with 3 errors and gave away a penalty.
I like Mago in the team as he offers something different, the other 5 props are similar but he needs to be dropped after that effort (annoying as the Catalans game he was great).
Farrell 150m, Marshall 151m, Toby King 140m all great efforts!
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| Quote ="NSW"2 bad errors from Isa in try scoring positions, 43 metres and 6 missed tackles.
KPP didn’t get much game time but showed some good signs IMO. In the crunch last 10 minutes he came up with 2 massive shots, one of Seb Ikahihifo (who tore us apart all game) and one on I think Masters.
Ikahihifo is a 32 year old overseas impact prop. Last night he did 22 tackles with 2 misses, 13 carries for 141m and one error.
Our overseas impact prop Mago did 12 tackles, missing 4!! Ran 5 carries for 37m with 3 errors and gave away a penalty.
I like Mago in the team as he offers something different, the other 5 props are similar but he needs to be dropped after that effort (annoying as the Catalans game he was great).
Farrell 150m, Marshall 151m, Toby King 140m all great efforts!'"
Far far better from KPP last night in his limited minutes. He carried and tackled with good aggression, including the shot you mention.
It was a mixed bag by Isa. His handling is just a shambles and makes you wonder how he’s made it this far as a pro rugby league player but then I thought he lead a visible uplift in defensive intensity from around 50 minutes onwards and it’s tough to put a price on that.
I’m done with Mago after last night tbh. We’ve waited and waited for him to find some consistent form but you can only wait so long. He constantly lets down any good work with the most pathetic, lazy errors you could see. I’m sick to the back teeth of seeing his teammates patting him on his back after errors. There comes a time when that needs to be somebody giving him an absolute rollicking and trying to wake the big lump up. Fair play to them being so patient because I’m done (and I have been patient for 14 months now). Him playing well last week only makes it more frustrating.
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| Quote ="jonh"Better stats from the forwards with the exception of Isa and Byrne going forward.
I really think the lack of go forward from 2 secondrows is hurting us.
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Wardle improving but would still like to see him work a bit harder carrying.
I’d really like to see us run with French at 1, Field at 6 and Cust at 9 earlier in the game next week before we head into the Easter period.
We look a lot slicker and threatening when we have that formation.'"
Faz is doing the work of the other two second row forwards. He desperately needs some help otherwise he will be burned out.
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Powell 39 tackles, 11 dummy half runs for 74 metres Passing accuracy was very good.
King 140 metres from 20 carries
https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3801
However the game was one of the most boring I've seen in many years, but a win's a win.
Discipline, what's changed?
Last year we were the least penalised team in Superleague. The first half the penalty count was 6 - 0 in Huddersfields favour.
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Powell 39 tackles, 11 dummy half runs for 74 metres Passing accuracy was very good.
King 140 metres from 20 carries
https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3801
However the game was one of the most boring I've seen in many years, but a win's a win.
Discipline, what's changed?
Last year we were the least penalised team in Superleague. The first half the penalty count was 6 - 0 in Huddersfields favour.
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Powell 39 tackles, 11 dummy half runs for 74 metres Passing accuracy was very good.
King 140 metres from 20 carries
https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3801
However the game was one of the most boring I've seen in many years, but a win's a win.
Discipline, what's changed?
Last year we were the least penalised team in Superleague. The first half the penalty count was 6 - 0 in Huddersfields favour.'"
Powell’s stats look pretty good. That’s the sort of level he needs to stick at and not these weeks we’re he doesn’t challenge the defence at all but we’ll see.
The discipline is a worry. I can’t help but wonder if Peets laid back style of not criticising officials makes us an easy target. It was a joke last night, with them coming up with the exact same indiscretions and not getting pinged. That tip tackle near the end was just shambolic. How he could not give that, after nailing us for what seemed a perfectly fine tackle earlier in the half is beyond me.
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King 140 metres from 20 carries
https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3801
However the game was one of the most boring I've seen in many years, but a win's a win.
Discipline, what's changed?
Last year we were the least penalised team in Superleague. The first half the penalty count was 6 - 0 in Huddersfields favour.'"
Powell’s stats look pretty good. That’s the sort of level he needs to stick at and not these weeks we’re he doesn’t challenge the defence at all but we’ll see.
The discipline is a worry. I can’t help but wonder if Peets laid back style of not criticising officials makes us an easy target. It was a joke last night, with them coming up with the exact same indiscretions and not getting pinged. That tip tackle near the end was just shambolic. How he could not give that, after nailing us for what seemed a perfectly fine tackle earlier in the half is beyond me.
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| Yeah, we sure didn't get any favours from the Wigan ref.
And let me once again that I so wish refs would clamp down on tacklers malingering in the ruck. They've figured out now that they don't have to make the slightest to get out of the dummy-half's way, and they won't get pinged. I know we went too far in the other direction in the past, until we had the ridiculous situation where dummy-halves were throwing the ball at prone players to milk a pen, but the pendulum has swung way too far the other way now. Last night wasn't as bad as Cats, but it's still a blight on the game. You see it in the NRL too, and they don't seem to be doing anything about it either.
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