From my perspective, it's more that you have had three good seasons on the injury front whilst every other club suffered and all of a sudden it's an excuse for you but nobody else was allowed to use it.

Look at the teams from GF 2019. We were missing several players (started with our third choice HB) and lost two or three during the game meaning we had a SR on the wing for large parts.

Never mentioned by Saints fans as a reason why you were better than us, you were just better than us. You probably were based on how that season panned out, but if we beat you on Friday then we'll have to listen to how many injuries you have and how players are out of position etc. We spent most of that season playing with a pack containing three rookies who we are now starting to see the best of.

I don't remember the last time Saints were beaten by the better side on the day. Even the cup semi produced lines like "Wigan only played for 5 minutes" "we had injuries" and how lucky we were. Appreciate every club has fans like that including ourselves, but it is very common with Saints fans at the moment (goes back to the arrogance from success thing I mentioned way back) and most of us are sick of reading/listening to it.

The point I'm making is that this time the bookies have responded. Its a big thing to have Wigan start as favourites beairng in mind I can't recall the last time they did in a game against us.

So its either home advantage that is making Wigan slight favourites, or the fact that Saints injuries affect us more than Wigan's injuries do. This isn't just Saints fans moaning, its the fact that the bookies have reacted.

I suspect that is due to us beating you in the semi, coming close to beating you at magic and us being at home.

If it was your injuries then I would hope we would be bigger favourites than -2.

You guys might not like reading this, but the gap is closing.

My worry is that missing Powell and Tommy might just cost us. For the stick Powell gets his decision making from dummy half as to which side to attack is second to none and something we miss when he doesn't play. On the plus side it is forecast to be nice and sunny so hopefully we get to run the Saints pack about and get over the top in the back end of each half

100% it is. Without a doubt. It is the reason why Roby laughed when Peet said we are still way ahead of Wigan.

Or the fact that the bookies think Wigan are the better team now.

Oh, wait a minute! That couldn't possibly be the reason. Must be the injuries...

I've missed you.

Who are favourites to win the grand final, that will show you who the bookies think are the better side? There shouldnt be much between them to be fair

How so?

Hence why I said "now". It'll be interesting to see how those odds change between now and October too. They've been closing all season so far to the point there's next to nothing in it any more.

Don't forget
The odds will be skewed Saints way currently with the bookies because Wigan aren't definitely 2nd
If/when we are those odds will narrow again.

I don't think the bookies see anything in it tbh. Either team could win the GF if they get there just as either team could win on Friday despite Wigan being favourites.

This is spot on. I am looking forward to it. Taking two mates from work who have never been to a rugby league game before. Hopefully be 2 more Wiganers by 10pm Friday night

Are they born and bred in St Helens like you too?

Liverpool

Surely nobody in their right mind would admit to that!

https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2022/08/ ... the-derby/ Over 18,000 tickets sold.

https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2022/08/ ... the-derby/ Over 18,000 tickets sold.

should be a fantastic night,cant wait.

Wigan by 8 at least.

Much needed income, hopefully it'll sneak over 20k come Friday night

Actual quote from the Saints fan site -  'If any other super league team had this many injuries they would probably lose by 40 at Wigan. All the pressure’s on Wigan this week.'

They have four injuries. We have four injuries.

Gotta love them.

unbelievable those lot

Getting their excuses in early

Shame Skint RLFC never sell their allocation at st Helens like saints do at Skint RLFC