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| Quote ="Phuzzy"That would be all good and well Jukesy, if it was a one off. Unfortunately it's something he does on a regular basis. Occasionally he gets his man but all too often he doesn't. There may have been extenuating circumstances last week, not least being down to 12 men, which lead to too many players trying to solve problems before they happened but Bibby does it when there's 13 men on the field and with everyone else in a good defensive position. I think deflecting blame in this one instance is papering over the problem.'"
I don't from a high level view point disagree
But it is something both our centres (whoever they are in any particular game) do.
Maybe they're told to defend that way in certain situations, maybe they aren't (I think it will be coached rather way otherwise they'd be dropped).
Bibbys going, and agree that Halsall needs game time at points this year to prepare for next year and beyond.
But I just think with his imminent departure a few will jump on the name calling bandwagon at every opportunity when it isn't always his doing etc.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I need to say I think he's a very good SL winger
International, mmmm, not yet for me
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Hes become a far better player than I ever thought he would be, but like the old saying.
Your never as good as you think you are, and never as bad as they say you are.
Don't want it to be a witch hunt as I do think his positives Far outweigh his negatives, but he does have the simple mistakes in his game and on Saturday he went a bit Headless chicken at times.
As you say, only the coaches/players or Marshall himself will know why he was where he was for that last try, but with the 1st try im 100% sure no-one will have told him to go chasing 10mtrs inside on Welsby from a PTB on his wing and get nowhere near.'"
I think I would go into 'headless chicken' mode if as a winger I couldn't trust my centre.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I think I would go into 'headless chicken' mode if as a winger I couldn't trust my centre.'"
OK
So just give me 1 explanation for each if those instances then?
Player rumoured to be leaving, blame him for everything
No mid point view, just extremes I.e. hes either world class or Awful.
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| I don’t think Bibby takes anymore heat now we know he’s leaving than he did before. He’s always been a bit of a target IMO. He’s not particularly fashionable if you get what I mean. A lad who did pretty well for Salford but wasn’t a big name, who comes here and people sort of see as a budget signing. Overall I think he’s been a success and is a pretty good player but loads haven’t rated him from day one and still don’t. He is reasonably limited but I love his attitude and commitment.
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| Anyone know if u can pay on the gate
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| Field
French Halsall Isa Marshall
Cust Smith
Ellis Powell Byrne
Pearce-Paul Farrell
Smithies
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Havard Mago Partington O’Neill
Put Pearce-Paul back to second row in place of Bateman.
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| Quote ="Ashton Bears"Field
French Halsall Isa Marshall
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Put Pearce-Paul back to second row in place of Bateman.'"
That would be my 17.
I wouldn't have Nsemba in the 17 against such a big powerful pack.
Only seen him once live and he played centre that day so couldn't comment on his live performances in the second row but I've watched him quite a few times on Wigan TV and must admit I don't see why he seems to be so highly rated. Seems to lack that bit of dog for me.
Peet has been extremely impressive so far so if he does go with Nsemba this Friday then I would have to assume that I am obviously missing something that the coaching team do on a regular basis.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"That would be my 17.
I wouldn't have Nsemba in the 17 against such a big powerful pack.
Only seen him once live and he played centre that day so couldn't comment on his live performances in the second row but I've watched him quite a few times on Wigan TV and must admit I don't see why he seems to be so highly rated. Seems to lack that bit of dog for me.
Peet has been extremely impressive so far so if he does go with Nsemba this Friday then I would have to assume that I am obviously missing something that the coaching team do on a regular basis.'"
With Sao, Evans, Ma'u and Savelio missing the lack ain't that big!
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| My heart just sinks a bit when I see Isa in the centres,
We all like Marshall, but he was certainly poor defensively against Saints. But that standing deep,'second full-back' thing early in the tackle count; hasn't he always done it? He was doing it even under Lam, as I recall. I assume it was a pre-agreed thing,
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| Peet confirmed on Wigan TV Halsall nearly went to Hull FC on loan.
Indicates to me he’s down the pecking order and not in the short term plans.
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| Quote ="NSW"Peet confirmed on Wigan TV Halsall nearly went to Hull FC on loan.
Indicates to me he’s down the pecking order and not in the short term plans.'"
Why would he, I mean we've got Willie Isa who's made 13 appearances this year (not all at centre mind). We've already given him game time over Nicholson, so why not Halsall too.
Btw that's a bit tongue in cheek, but it's something to ponder. If either of them fullfil their potential at other clubs, we'll look back and say "how did they let them go" and what superstar did we have Infront of them at the time...
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Why would he, I mean we've got Willie Isa who's made 13 appearances this year (not all at centre mind). We've already given him game time over Nicholson, so why not Halsall too.
Btw that's a bit tongue in cheek, but it's something to ponder. If either of them fullfil their potential at other clubs, we'll look back and say "how did they let them go" and what superstar did we have Infront of them at the time...'"
Not really a comment on Nicholson or Halsall, but I genuinely can't believe Willie Isa is still at Wigan and even more amazed he's so far up the pecking order as a centre.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Not really a comment on Nicholson or Halsall, but I genuinely can't believe Willie Isa is still at Wigan and even more amazed he's so far up the pecking order as a centre.'"
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| Can't complain at French scoring 4 in the first half.
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| Sign him up, whatever it costs.
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| Smashed it lads. Did us proud. Only thing I would have liked to see was O’Neil get a run out. At 30-0 we was winning that game.
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| French was superb but Field was even better IMO. He set up most of them, although French did score a couple not many wingers could have.
15 try’s in 4 games for our right wingers now. It’s a decent old gig.
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| Stunning - absolutely stunning. Probably would have scored 10 if he'd played the 80.
Fantastic stuff - a complete 180 degree turn on last year. From stale, lifeless dross to vibrant, skilful 5 star entertainment.
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| 3 missed kicks, Peet out !!!
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| Quote ="apollosghost"3 missed kicks, Peet out !!!'"
Called for his head when he took French off. Does he have a heart Matty Peet? Where was the effort to break the 10 barrier?!
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| Quote ="WWste"Smashed it lads. Did us proud. Only thing I would have liked to see was O’Neil get a run out. At 30-0 we was winning that game.'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"French was superb but Field was even better IMO. He set up most of them, although French did score a couple not many wingers could have.
15 try’s in 4 games for our right wingers now. It’s a decent old gig.'"
Just said the same
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