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| Quote ="moto748"But surely Sam will be full-back? i can't see Wane playing Welsby at full-back and Sam in the halves, can you?'"
It's probably what I would do, but I feel if he was going to do that he would have done it the other week.
He will do a job for us wherever we play him I have no doubt about that.
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| Quote ="Stu M"I think you are exaggerating this to be honest. Personally I don’t think he gets as much love in as Tomkins in his prime, nowhere near. Last night there was a lot of praise for him but only because Wilkin was co-commentator and has rated him for years.
Welsby gets mentioned more for the drama of his GF winning try and the fact that his family and friends are all Wigan fans and he’s a Wigan lad. I don’t feel that the Sky team go over the top about him, indeed I actually feel Field gets more attention.'"
Tough to comment on your own player because for one I’m usually at the games, so I don’t really hear it but also it just doesn’t stand out as much because I guess you subconsciously buy in to it. I honestly don’t think I’ve heard an individual spoke about as much since Tomkins by the commentary team (not just Wilkin). Much of it comes from ‘that try’ and I understand that.
He’s a quality player no doubt but very different to somebody like Field for example. If he’s bulled up by the commentary team I get it looking at his highlights reel this season. He’s been a one man try of the season competition. Welsby is more of a creator IMO and he competes extremely hard. He’s very good, so it certainly isn’t a post bashing his talent but you would think he’s reinventing the game sometimes with how he’s spoke about. Obviously it’s coming from a Wigan fans perspective and there’s going to be bias. We need players to be spoke about and talked up but Wilkin crossed the line in to fan boy mode last night.
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| Quote ="moto748"But surely Sam will be full-back? i can't see Wane playing Welsby at full-back and Sam in the halves, can you?'"
No, Sam is nailed on for the fullback position.
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| I’m all for it. Let’s big them all up. We spend far too much time concentrating on the negative and ignoring the positive in this country.
One of the reasons I prefer the Australian commentary is they focus on the positive.
Is it taken a bit too far sometimes? Absolutely but I’d rather have it that way than spending 80 minutes talking about mistakes and refereeing errors.
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| He’s an excellent player, and whilst not at this level (yet…one can dream even as a Wigan fan), he’s very much in the mould of the current crop of Origin full backs in the way that he can play across the backs to a very good standard, he has a similar style, and is strong as anything. Sort of one of those players who you just want in the team ala Trobojevic, Mitchell, Tedesco, and Cobbo (nearly).
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| I think Welsby is a terrific player, as a Wigan fan I completely understand why Saints fans are so excited about him and I look forward to seeing him tear it up in an England shirt so that I can cheer for him. As for Sky, like all of us, I think they are painfully aware that our sport no longer has household names outside its core audience. That's why they did the hype job on Tomkins, now Welsby and why they will do the same with Will Pryce if circumstances allow. Doesn't alter the fact that Tomkins was an outstanding talent and so is Welsby (not getting into a measuring contest of who is best). Like most fans, I see much more of my own team than I do others and that probably colours my judgement a little, and the same is probably true of Jon Wilkin.
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| Quote ="tyr"I think Welsby is a terrific player, as a Wigan fan I completely understand why Saints fans are so excited about him and I look forward to seeing him tear it up in an England shirt so that I can cheer for him. As for Sky, like all of us, I think they are painfully aware that our sport no longer has household names outside its core audience. That's why they did the hype job on Tomkins, now Welsby and why they will do the same with Will Pryce if circumstances allow. Doesn't alter the fact that Tomkins was an outstanding talent and so is Welsby (not getting into a measuring contest of who is best). Like most fans, I see much more of my own team than I do others and that probably colours my judgement a little, and the same is probably true of Jon Wilkin.'"
A Well Balanced, reasonable post - It will never catch on
Welsby is a VERY Good player
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| Quote ="tyr"I think Welsby is a terrific player, as a Wigan fan I completely understand why Saints fans are so excited about him and I look forward to seeing him tear it up in an England shirt so that I can cheer for him. As for Sky, like all of us, I think they are painfully aware that our sport no longer has household names outside its core audience. That's why they did the hype job on Tomkins, now Welsby and why they will do the same with Will Pryce if circumstances allow. Doesn't alter the fact that Tomkins was an outstanding talent and so is Welsby (not getting into a measuring contest of who is best). Like most fans, I see much more of my own team than I do others and that probably colours my judgement a little, and the same is probably true of Jon Wilkin.'"
Agree completely.
Although if we [iwere[/i to get into a measuring contest, Sam was better!
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| Welsby is a highly overrated player
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Welsby is a highly overrated player'"
Oh dear, if you think that then he must be better than I thought
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Welsby is a highly overrated player'"
Have you actually got a non antagonistic thought in your head
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| Quote ="Jason65"Have you actually got a non antagonistic thought in your head'"
Does he have a thought?
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Welsby is a highly overrated player'"
I agree, not a patch on ten minute Tony.
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| Quote ="Jason65"Have you actually got a non antagonistic thought in your head'"
Did I say he was a poop player?
He is a good player but he isn't the messiah like a lot of fans claim he is
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Did I say he was a poop player?
He is a good player but he isn't the messiah like a lot of fans claim he is'"
But you have a crap record of knowing anything about rugby league you cant even get the nicknames of players right.
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| Quote ="Jason65"But you have a crap record of knowing anything about rugby league you cant even get the nicknames of players right.'"
My god, you really have fallen hook line and sinker for the narrative of the clique.
1. Every player from the Wigan academy is untouchable
2. Sam Powell is the saviour of Wigan
3. Never ever have a thought or idea that goes against 1 & 2
4. You can only be a member of the clique if you follow the above
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"My god, you really have fallen hook line and sinker for the narrative of the clique.
1. Every player from the Wigan academy is untouchable
2. Sam Powell is the saviour of Wigan
3. Never ever have a thought or idea that goes against 1 & 2
4. You can only be a member of the clique if you follow the above
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Cant believe you have put a thumbs up to yourself.
I just dont call any player that plays this fantastic game as easily as others,we dont know if they carry a injury,have personal problems etc I just think idiots like yourself who just like to call a player all the time are a little pathetic.
I for one have never said Powell is the saviour as is anyone from the Academy is untouchable.
You have been shown up to be a whopper on more than one occasion I hope you carry on being a whopper as many other fans just laugh at you and your attempts to wind people up.
You really are a funny whopper
If Batty is reading this he would agree
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| Batty has broke a rib playing against Stains out for a month,he carried on against Stains,this is why I pointed out to you Whopper we dont know what is going on.
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| Quote ="Jason65"Cant believe you have put a thumbs up to yourself.
I just dont call any player that plays this fantastic game as easily as others,we dont know if they carry a injury,have personal problems etc I just think idiots like yourself who just like to call a player all the time are a little pathetic.
I for one have never said Powell is the saviour as is anyone from the Academy is untouchable.
You have been shown up to be a whopper on more than one occasion I hope you carry on being a whopper as many other fans just laugh at you and your attempts to wind people up.
You really are a funny whopper
If Batty is reading this he would agree'"
Whopper, are you 9 years old ffs, you do make me laugh though
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Whopper, are you 9 years old ffs, you do make me laugh though
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If I am I am 4 years older than you.
To help you I didnt coin the phrase Whopper I just carried it on.
You are crap at this.
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| Quote ="Jason65"If I am I am 4 years older than you.
To help you I didnt coin the phrase Whopper I just carried it on.
You are crap at this.'"
I only asked about you being nine because the only people where I live that use said word are youngsters, also, you're not very good with punctuation.
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| Very good,did you notice I didnt start with the whopper thing.
However I did notice other fans calling you a prick,whopper,troll etc.
I think you could well be ill.
You only ask me if I was 9 because you are sad,I can improve my punctuation but you will always be sad.
you are still crap at this
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| Quote ="Jason65"Very good,did you notice I didnt start with the whopper thing.
However I did notice other fans calling you a prick,whopper,troll etc.
I think you could well be ill.
You only ask me if I was 9 because you are sad,I can improve my punctuation but you will always be sad.
you are still crap at this'"
I'll stop now as this is too easy and I feel sorry for you
btw are you King Warrior under another name?
He was a big tool as well
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"I'll stop now as this is too easy and I feel sorry for you
btw are you King Warrior under another name?
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I agree best you stop now as you are crap at this and a prick and a prick aswell (not my words)
To answer the only intelligent thing that you have put down I am not King Warrior but if you think he was a big tool he must have been ok.
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I put 2 pricks down apologies you are just the one
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