I stick by my OP. The club already draw the line on what's acceptable and I can't see how making them get a Vax is worse than saying that if they don't eat right, then they'll get let go. Same goes for doing rehab, or drinking before games etc. I'm sure they can't do stuff like go skiing etc too.

I'm even more baffled why some are so pro choice when it comes to vaccination. It's highly frustrating that people are being forced to isolate because of the pressure being put on the NHS from the morons who don't wanna get vaxed. (yes they are morons btw). The stats over the last few days say something like 90% in A&E are unvaxed. Those extra people up the pressure on the NHS and drives the current strategy.

Their stupid and selfish choices impact everyone and the gov need to step in. It's up there with drink driving. By the pro choice logic it's acceptable to let everyone do what they want and drive drunk, regardless of what impact it has on others, plus at the same time stopping people who follow the rules from driving at certain times to accommodate the be!!ends.

do you have to isolate with the flu?

You know the answer to that as well as I.

You’re taking my response in a direction I never pointed it at. If a player gets flu (proper flu) they’ll be out for 1-2 games minimum. If they have their flu jab they’re a lot less [ilikely [/ito get flu or if they do, less likely to be as bad as it would be. What if those 2 games were the semi and Grand Final? Would we financially punish our players?

Flu is a proven killer. Pre COVID (if you can remember a world without it!) every year without fail the papers would run articles such as “NHS is going to be over run with flu patients” and “go get your flu jab”. My question is - what’s the difference?

Covid is far more transmissible and without precautions, masks, social distancing there would have been far more of it, and it would have killed far more.
Without the vaccines the Death Toll inevitably would have been far higher.

COVID-19: Current COVID-19 deaths*

Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide.

"The COVID-19 situation continues to change, sometimes rapidly. Doctors and scientists are working to estimate the mortality rate of COVID-19. At present, it is thought to be substantially higher (possibly 10 times or more) than that of most strains of the flu."

The last 2 years or so hasn't happened because of something the same as flu.
It's happened because it was more more contagious, far more likely to kill people and no vaccine at the time meant there was no way to keep it under control. Without social distancing, mask wearing etc the whole NHS system would have had to deal with something possibly 10x times or more than it was capable of dealing with.

But im not, if you've been in contact with someone with flu you wouldnt miss a game but if you have with covid you will, add that to how many people there are at the club you could miss a lot of the season if different people get it through out the year and you are in proximity to them and not vaccinated

I've had all three!



The point I'm making is that you can't discriminate against someone who doesn't want a jab, based on the reasons stated. Otherwise, you have to consider all the other things that can ether disrupt a training session, or put pressure on the health service and the public (which I think is the issue really being raised here).

Think of it this way: The leading causes of early death and hospitalisation are conditions related to poor lifestyle, NOT COVID Poor lifestyle also contributes greatly to COVID deaths. However, would we champion the banning of being overweight, consuming alcohol, cigarettes, partaking in hazardous sports like RL etc? Probably not.

We either make personal choices or we make everybody get treated identically. We can't act one way for COVID because it's something new and ignore other elephants in the room. If I was a super-fit 20-year who didn't drink or smoke, I too would probably rebel against being told to get jabbed by older fatter people!

Quote ="sergeant pepper"I stick by my OP. The club already draw the line on what's acceptable and I can't see how making them get a Vax is worse than saying that if they don't eat right, then they'll get let go. Same goes for doing rehab, or drinking before games etc. I'm sure they can't do stuff like go skiing etc too. I'm even more baffled why some are so pro choice when it comes to vaccination. It's highly frustrating that people are being forced to isolate because of the pressure being put on the NHS from the morons who don't wanna get vaxed. (yes they are morons btw). The stats over the last few days say something like 90% in A&E are unvaxed. Those extra people up the pressure on the NHS and drives the current strategy. Their stupid and selfish choices impact everyone and the gov need to step in. It's up there with drink driving. By the pro choice logic it's acceptable to let everyone do what they want and drive drunk, regardless of what impact it has on others, plus at the same time stopping people who follow the rules from driving at certain times to accommodate the be!!ends.'" https://www.totalrl.com/french-covid-ru ... fbFPN0A5bA Seems they will be effectively suspended for not having the jab, albeit for 2 games in the season.

Quote ="sergeant pepper"I stick by my OP. The club already draw the line on what's acceptable and I can't see how making them get a Vax is worse than saying that if they don't eat right, then they'll get let go. Same goes for doing rehab, or drinking before games etc. I'm sure they can't do stuff like go skiing etc too. I'm even more baffled why some are so pro choice when it comes to vaccination. It's highly frustrating that people are being forced to isolate because of the pressure being put on the NHS from the morons who don't wanna get vaxed. (yes they are morons btw). The stats over the last few days say something like 90% in A&E are unvaxed. Those extra people up the pressure on the NHS and drives the current strategy. Their stupid and selfish choices impact everyone and the gov need to step in. It's up there with drink driving. By the pro choice logic it's acceptable to let everyone do what they want and drive drunk, regardless of what impact it has on others, plus at the same time stopping people who follow the rules from driving at certain times to accommodate the be!!ends.'" https://www.totalrl.com/french-covid-ru ... fbFPN0A5bA Seems they will be effectively suspended for not having the jab, albeit for 2 games in the season.