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| I'd echo whats been said earlier.
Great they've carried over the price to deduct two games for ST renewals, but that forgets the 4-6k lapsed ST Holders (above last years 4k covid levels) you would think they would want to entice back.
Full price for an adult is £347 on the sidelines - meaning you're looking at 26.69 per game (/13)! Where's the benefit of buying a ST and committing to all games up front for a 31p - £2 saving per game max?!
Even the early bird at £290 is not particularly enticing....Around £22.50 per game, giving you around £6 saving per game. So you're realistically getting just over 2 games free....Miss that with your holidays or game date changes (as most realistically would), theres literally no benefit in getting a ST.
I know latics are generally more desperate for fans, but compare that to a latics ST, which were sold at the rate of approx £10-11 per game.
I applaud them knocking off two games for renewals, but if they were looking at getting ST back up to previous levels the gap between existing (who would probably renew anyway) and new fans is far too much. £230 renewal price should have really been the offer to all new ST purchases before the end of January which would have possibly got us back up to 8k as there'd have been a meaningful incentive to renew.
Big opportunity missed IMO and i would be surprised to see us with more than 5k ST next year & latics style 8k gates, which is going to be pretty crippling for the club.
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| Quote ="DannyT"Are you the new marketing director?'"
Nope
Any other questions???
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| Quote ="afootingmiracle21-12"I'd echo whats been said earlier.
Great they've carried over the price to deduct two games for ST renewals, but that forgets the 4-6k lapsed ST Holders (above last years 4k covid levels) you would think they would want to entice back.
Full price for an adult is £347 on the sidelines - meaning you're looking at 26.69 per game (/13)!
Where's the benefit of buying a ST and committing to all games up front for a 31p - £2 saving per game max?!
Even the early bird at £290 is not particularly enticing....Around £22.50 per game, giving you around £6 saving per game. So you're realistically getting just over 2 games free....Miss that with your holidays or game date changes (as most realistically would), theres literally no benefit in getting a ST.
I know latics are generally more desperate for fans, but compare that to a latics ST, which were sold at the rate of approx £10-11 per game.
I applaud them knocking off two games for renewals, but if they were looking at getting ST back up to previous levels the gap between existing (who would probably renew anyway) and new fans is far too much. £230 renewal price should have really been the offer to all new ST purchases before the end of January which would have possibly got us back up to 8k as there'd have been a meaningful incentive to renew.
Big opportunity missed IMO and i would be surprised to see us with more than 5k ST next year & latics style 8k gates, which is going to be pretty crippling for the club.'"
I agree about the "Full" price
But they are as cheap or cheaper in most areas compared to Saints/Wire and agree "New" prices who don't do the early bird are a bit steep, but no steeper than anyone else's who will have had the same issues. And once on the auto renewal or renewal packages it becomes very cheap imo
As for the Laticd analogy, yes 299 for sidelines on their renewal/early bird package is good and I'm guessing around 13 a game. But after that 369.
But ours at 195 for 15 a game is very good, renewal at 230 17.50 is good. As you say, jumping on the initial new bandwagon at a non early bird price is were it gets steep (but I'd bet they'll sell very few of them as most people will go early one way or another).
Latics junior prices are good, but they as well jump outside the early bird period
And I think our junior prices are better AND go up to 24 as mentioned previously
But
I'm guessing not everyone thinks so
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Nope
Any other questions???'"
No I was just intrigued at your presentation as the club don’t seem to have put the same effort into their promotion.
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| Quote ="DannyT"No I was just intrigued at your presentation as the club don’t seem to have out the same effort into their promotion.'"
It wasn't a presentation
And I'm not sure the club would be right to show comparison prices of other clubs.
I just did some research on what other clubs charge etc and compared them to ours before commenting
My post was basically showing my working out and the reasoning behind my thoughts
Maybe what I should have done is basically just said the prices are rubbish without putting any thought or logic to my statement? Doesn't appear you get questioned if you do that?
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| Well I thought you were really getting into your stride there, Jukes!
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You are indeed correct, but like I have said, will they remain as low in 2023, especially if the club returns to winning ways next season,which is
all about getting the confidence of supporters back, especially with it being the 150th Anniversity of the club next season.
I wish the club all the best in their efforts to make it a triple trophy winning 2022 season!
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You are indeed correct, but like I have said, will they remain as low in 2023, especially if the club returns to winning ways next season,which is
all about getting the confidence of supporters back, especially with it being the 150th Anniversity of the club next season.
I wish the club all the best in their efforts to make it a triple trophy winning 2022 season!
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| Quote ="DannyT"Are you the new marketing director?'"
No, just a loyal supporter of his mentor IL and doing his bit to sell season tickets for the club.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I agree about the "Full" price
But they are as cheap or cheaper in most areas compared to Saints/Wire and agree "New" prices who don't do the early bird are a bit steep, but no steeper than anyone else's who will have had the same issues. And once on the auto renewal or renewal packages it becomes very cheap imo
As for the Laticd analogy, yes 299 for sidelines on their renewal/early bird package is good and I'm guessing around 13 a game. But after that 369.
But ours at 195 for 15 a game is very good, renewal at 230 17.50 is good. As you say, jumping on the initial new bandwagon at a non early bird price is were it gets steep (but I'd bet they'll sell very few of them as most people will go early one way or another).
Latics junior prices are good, but they as well jump outside the early bird period
And I think our junior prices are better AND go up to 24 as mentioned previously
But
I'm guessing not everyone thinks so'"
We get that you and the other approx 4k are getting a great renewal price, but the question is really how the club entice the 4-6000 lapsed season ticket holders back. I respectfully suggest saying "we're cheaper than St Helens/Warrington" wont cut the mustard, nor will "part with £300 to see more dull rugby played by inferior quality players, even though they are local lads" work either.
We are 150 years old in 2022 and hoped to see that figure used somewhere in the marketing. I would have thought selling the south stand ones at £150 with full payment up front may have generated more sales.
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| This is a really difficult conversation and probably indicative of where RL is at as a sport. As the old saying goes - if you win business on price, you'll eventually lose it on price.
The figures banded around (for all clubs) are cheap. If they are good value is subjective to the individual. I'm somewhere in the middle i.e it's a great price for a hour or two out, but I probably wouldn't pay £5 to watch some of the 'stars' being showcased in SL.
That being said, for what is the top tier of RL in the country, tickets should be a lot more expensive & season tickets should reflect that too. You can't win however. If tickets started at £28 for adults, you'll get people saying it's too expensive. By a way of a quick comparison, that's what I think tickets start at for Sale.
Ultimately and like I said in the opening line - if you price yourself as cheap, then that's how you'll be seen.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"No, just a loyal supporter of his mentor IL and doing his bit to sell season tickets for the club.'"
Do you buy tickets?
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| Quote ="JonnyBroad"Do you buy tickets?'"
Does he f***
He hasn't been to a game since he used to get lifted over the turnstyles at CP in the gang of four days. Wish we could go back to them days
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Does he f***
He hasn't been to a game since he used to get lifted over the turnstyles at CP in the gang of four days. Wish we could go back to them days'"
Getting in for free or watching some decent rugby?
Or both?
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| Up pops Larry, Mo and Curley!
Question is "which one is which"
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"We get that you and the other approx 4k are getting a great renewal price, but the question is really how the club entice the 4-6000 lapsed season ticket holders back. I respectfully suggest saying "we're cheaper than St Helens/Warrington" wont cut the mustard, nor will "part with £300 to see more dull rugby played by inferior quality players, even though they are local lads" work either.
We are 150 years old in 2022 and hoped to see that figure used somewhere in the marketing. I would have thought selling the south stand ones at £150 with full payment up front may have generated more sales.'"
How are Saints/Warrington getting their 4/5k back ???
Are they reducing their tickets????
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| A non-ST holder can buy a seat in the East or West for £290. Furthermore they can spread that over 9 months.
I presume we will play 14 home games next season (11 plus 3 loop fixtures) so that's £20 a game. Even if we play 13 it's only £22. Hell it's only £26 if we only play 11.
That's up to 5 free games according to the package.
We are hardly ripping people off are we??
If a fan of the club doesn't want to spend £35 (based on 9 month payment plan) a month to watch us then what else can the club actually do?
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"A non-ST holder can buy a seat in the East or West for £290. Furthermore they can spread that over 9 months.
I presume we will play 14 home games next season (11 plus 3 loop fixtures) so that's £20 a game. Even if we play 13 it's only £22. Hell it's only £26 if we only play 11.
That's up to 5 free games according to the package.
We are hardly ripping people off are we??
If a fan of the club doesn't want to spend £35 (based on 9 month payment plan) a month to watch us then what else can the club actually do?'"
The moaners would also want a free return limousine to the games.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"The moaners would also want a free return limousine to the games.'" A dedicated lane to get out of car park 3 would be nice. Although, can anyone remember whether [iall[/i games (inc playoffs) were included in the parking charge before the wendyballers started being awkward?
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| Even with the good bargain prices, season ticket sales might not sell at the rate the club expects at the moment unless it makes clear to supporters what is happening about about the return of French from down under and the future of Hardacre as a Wigan player, the promise by Lenagan about one more signing together with what promotions will be made from the Academy, especially if Reserve rugby is to return.
The silence on what is coming out of the club at the present time is not helping as some supporters, especially those with families could be holding back from buying season tickets because of the Covid situation, getting near to Christmas and family incomes not being the same as they were a couple of years ago when things were normal.
The club needs to give out some positive and encourging news about what is happening, including what the size and compostion of the squad will be for next season and not just take it for granted that supporters willl buy season tickets without bothering about anything.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Even with the good bargain prices, season ticket sales might not sell at the rate the club expects at the moment unless it makes clear to supporters what is happening about about the return of French from down under and the future of Hardacre as a Wigan player, the promise by Lenagan about one more signing together with what promotions will be made from the Academy, especially if Reserve rugby is to return.
The silence on what is coming out of the club at the present time is not helping as some supporters, especially those with families could be holding back from buying season tickets because of the Covid situation, getting near to Christmas and family incomes not being the same as they were a couple of years ago when things were normal.
The club needs to give out some positive and encourging news about what is happening, including what the size and compostion of the squad will be for next season and not just take it for granted that supporters willl buy season tickets without bothering about anything.'"
Do you buy tickets?
Do you go to the matches?
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| Quote ="JonnyBroad"Do you buy tickets?
Do you go to the matches?'"
No longer buy a season ticket because of my age and health.
Yes, but only when I feel well enough to attend a game, which these days is confine just to home games.
Oh, and when you have been to as many matches and places to support the club over a period of fifty years in addition to the many other non Wigan games, then you can have a pop at older loyal supporters like myself.
Untill you reach the same age and level of health, I suggest you keep your opinion of others peoples supportt to yourself!
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"No longer buy a season ticket because of my age and health.
Yes, but only when I feel well enough to attend a game, which these days is confine just to home games.
Oh, and when you have been to as many matches and places to support the club over a period of fifty years in addition to the many other non Wigan games, then you can have a pop at older loyal supporters like myself.
Untill you reach the same age and level of health, I suggest you keep your opinion of others peoples supportt to yourself!'"
A simple no would have been enough.
And for the record can you please show me where I have had a pop at you or any of the other older supporters?
And i will continue to have my opinion as and when I want it, Like everyone else on here.
Fortunately for some the content is not examined before being approved. As some of the tripe would not be published.
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| Quote ="CyberPieMan"A dedicated lane to get out of car park 3 would be nice. Although, can anyone remember whether [iall[/i games (inc playoffs) were included in the parking charge before the wendyballers started being awkward?'"
Yes they were.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"How are Saints/Warrington getting their 4/5k back ???
Are they reducing their tickets????'"
No. St Helens win trophies and rack up points.
Warrington averaged 28 points per game and won 15 out of 21 games. Wigan averaged 15.48 per game - the lowest in SL. Even Leigh averaged more.
Dull rugby = stayaway fans.
Winning & entertaining rugby = increase in fans.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"No. St Helens win trophies and rack up points.
Warrington averaged 28 points per game and won 15 out of 21 games. Wigan averaged 15.48 per game - the lowest in SL. Even Leigh averaged more.
Dull rugby = stayaway fans.
Winning & entertaining rugby = increase in fans.'"
Oh right
So when Wigan were winning World club challenges and grand finals, averaged more points per game than Saints or Warrington and better defence and the crowds went down what was the excuse then?
See, you can dress it up any which you want, justify stay away fans whichever way you want, blame x,y or z
Truth is this
There are too many Wigan fans bitching and moaning about anything they can, making up excuses why they shouldn't go, justifying their reason for not spending £20 every other week on the club on anything they can. Yet put hours and hours of effort I to slagging the club off when the slightest thing goes wrong.
Back on point
Wigans prices are better in most areas tha anything any equivalent clubs have to offer.
If people still don't want to buy them then so be it
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